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The B-I-B-L-E. Is It Really the Book for Ye and Me? Part 1

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December 10, 2021 7:00 pm

The B-I-B-L-E. Is It Really the Book for Ye and Me? Part 1

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December 10, 2021 7:00 pm

On The Christian Worldview radio program, we often use terms like “think Biblically” or “the Bible says” or “Scripture is the basis for truth” or “Jesus Christ and His Word are the same yesterday and today and forever”.

In other words, the Bible, God’s Word, Holy Scripture is the foundation and lens through which we can understand God, the world, and ourselves, discover how to be reconciled to God through faith in Jesus Christ, and gain wisdom for how to live in a way that honors God.

If the Bible is this foundational for truth, the question needs to be asked: is the Bible trustworthy? What exactly is this long book of books? What is it about? Who wrote it? What does it mean that it’s inspired by God? What place should it have in our lives and the church?

Pastor Alistair Begg of Parkside Church in Cleveland, OH and the teacher on the Truth for Life radio broadcast recently did a series on “Why Bother with the Bible?”. We will play some portions of these sermons to help us have rock-solid confidence in the truthfulness and sufficiency of Scripture to be the final word on all matters of life and faith.

We will also speak with Jameson Taylor, President of the Center for Political Renewal, and Rob Chambers, Vice President of Policy and Legislative Affairs for American Family Association, about the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization case before the U.S. Supreme that some are saying could overturn Roe v. Wade.

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Is it really the book for you and me on the Christian review radio program. We often use terms like think biblically or the Bible says or Scripture is the basis for truth or Jesus Christ and his word are the same yesterday and today and forever. Another words were saying is the Bible or God's word are holy Scripture is the foundation and lens through which we can understand God the world and ourselves. It's the fill foundation and lens to discover how to be reconciled to God through faith in Jesus Christ. How we can be right with God. It is also the foundation to to gain wisdom for how to live in a way that honors God. So if the Bible is this foundational for truth.

The question really needs to be asked is the Bible trustworthy. What exactly is this long book of books. What is it about who wrote it. What is it mean that it's inspired by God. What place should it have in our lives in the church will recently pastor Alastair Begg of Parkside church in Cleveland Ohio and also the teacher on the truth for life radio broadcast. Did a sermon series on why bother with the Bible were going to play some portions of that series today so that we can have a rock solid confidence in the truthfulness and sufficiency of Scripture to be the final word on all matters of life and faith that the Bible makes some incredible claims as no other book does course we know is the best seller of all time, but the claims that it makes can only lead to the conclusion that the Bible is true or just a book full of man's words and full of lies but look at some of these claims. The Bible makes starting in second Timothy chapter 3 verse 14, where Paul writes to his understudy Timothy. He says you however continuing the things you have learned and become convinced of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings. This is Scripture which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

In other words that's what Scripture does.

It gives one the wisdom the seeing life from God's perspective in living that he as he intends gives you the wisdom that can lead to salvation being made right with God which comes through faith in Jesus Christ. And then this well-known passage in verse 16 of second Timothy chapter 3, all Scripture not just some all Scripture is inspired or God breathed and it's profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness.

Verse 17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.

So this is saying a lot, Scripture leads gives you the wisdom that leads to salvation. It's inspired by God and it's profitable for all these things look at another passage before we get to the soundbite second Peter chapter 1, another well-known passage starting in verse 19. So we have. Peter writes the prophetic word.

The Scripture made more sure to which you do well to pay attention because as to a lamp shining in a dark place of Scripture is like a light in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. Verse 20 but know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation. For no prophecy or no Scripture was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

And this is saying that the Bible is not just the words of these human authors. It's not just the words of men yes men wrote the words of Scripture, but they were inspired by God. They removed by the Holy Spirit. They spoke from God. So it wasn't a dictation Alastair Begg will get into this. Today was the dictation, but God came over them and inspired them to write exactly what she intended for us to know through the personalities, the unique temperaments and so forth life experiences of the writers of the books of the Bible.

Here's a short one John 1717, where Christ is praying to his father. He says this so succinctly. Verse 17 sanctify them is talking about his disciples, and by extension by extension, believers sanctify them in the truth. Here's the four words your word is truth.

That pretty much says it all.

Your word is truth, and then finally one more passage that is so comprehensive in showing that the Bible is so foundational and just all the incredible attributes of God's word in Psalm chapter 19 starting in verse seven it says the law of the Lord is perfect, restoring the soul. The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple. And all these different words, law, testimony, precepts, commandments, fear judgments, all these things are just different names, different terms for Scripture. The word of God. So the law of the Lord is perfect, restoring the soul. The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple. The precepts of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart the commandment of the Lord is sure, enlightening the eyes. The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever.

The judgments of the Lord are true. They are righteous altogether, they are more desirable than gold, yes, than much fine gold there sweeter also than honey and the drippings of the honeycomb. Moreover by them.

The judgments, the word of God, your servant is warned and in keeping them there is great reward. So these are just a few of the passages of Scripture that make these incredible claims about Scripture being inspired about being able to give you the wisdom that leaves the salvation that no prophecy comes from man himself, but God moved men to speak from God that God's word is true all of its true and it does so many things in the life of those who read it and believe it.

So let's get to some of these soundbites from this series that Alastair Begg did on why bother with the Bible.

If you been attending Parkside for any length of time, a tall, you will be familiar with this steady drumbeat of biblical exposition. You know that it doesn't matter who is standing behind the school peddlers myself or one of my colleagues, or perhaps a visitor but in each and every instance it will be apparent to all that the Bible is afforded a central place in all we do, and indeed son who when they initially visit our surprised by this and find themselves asking the question why does the Bible have such a central place in all that you do and Parkside well because we suggest it is important, but says the individual is it really as important as you seem to suggest you have heard of the group of individuals who organize a pickup game of football at a local field. They all got together and having assembled. Somebody said we don't have a ball and one of the group replied forget the ball let's get on with again and in many cases, that is exactly how it goes in a church service. Forget the Bible. Let's get on with the service and you can worship in a variety of places where it very quickly becomes apparent that the Bible is not being read. It is perhaps not even been referred to at all and if so only tangentially, and some are actually asking why bother with the Bible.

A tall, indeed only to the question this on the lips of some of you are here today. Why do we even bother with the Bible you have acquiesced to the notion that we spend time with Ed at the Yukon routinely somewhere where to say to you, why do you actually spent so much time on the Bible in that place.

And when you seem to spend long of the Bible than you do with any other part of the time in the room together. Why is it that you do that okay so what Alastair Begg just said is so typical of what goes on in the evangelical church today. The Bible should have a central place, should have the central place in all the church does his example of a football game whether he refers to football a soccer or American football.

Either way doing without a ball like you don't have a game is just like trying to conduct a church service without the Bible. At the center. You just can't do it, but this is so prevalent today. There's just a huge emphasis on quote praise and worship music half the service is about the music and the band and the lighting everything else. Lots of thought goes into appearing relevant to the people who are coming but there is very little reading of Scripture may be averse plucked here or there, little proof text to the inspirational, motivational message that the pastor is giving. There is not a consecutive reading of say a chapter of the Bible I could say reading the word of God for five or 10 minutes while the congregation is at attention in this is because they have a low confidence in the word of God to do its work.

They think it's not going to be compelling for people, so therefore let's just do it minimally, if at all, but the truth is reading the word of God will be the only perfect part of your church service.

This is where you're going to hear directly from God. No other part of the service.

Even the sermon is going to be perfect, as it will be when you hear directly from God's word.

So if your church isn't reading the Bible weekly during in-service you need to encourage your pastor or your elders to do so and get someone who reads it well with the authority and emphasis.

The word of God deserves, because what this does is it puts God's word in the place it deserves in authority over the people and they hear it directly as God inspired it and it puts the congregation under the authority of God's word in this is exactly what God designed his Word to do and then as the pastor preaches he preaches from the word of God. He reads it and explains it and helps people apply it and then repeat. It's the acronym rear read, explain, apply, repeat, that's all you need to do. Keep it simple. That's how God designed his word to operate with get to the next soundbite. First of all, the Bible is a library. It is a collection of books is one book, but it is one book encompassing 66 other books.

Anybody who takes a Bible and opens it up will notice that it is apparently broken into two disproportionate pieces that his apartment in the table of contents is called the Old Testament which goes from Genesis to Malachi. And then there is the New Testament which goes from Matthew through to Revelation. The Old Testament is made up of the books of the prophets, and of the law and of the sun's in the New Testament we have a Gospels Matthew Mark and Luke and John, and then we have the acts of the apostles.

The minute book of the early church or its history book that we have the letters written by different individuals to different gatherings of God's people, and then we have the book of Revelation, not the revelations as it is sometimes mistakenly referred to, but rather the revelation the apocalypse insight into around. Yet expedience that was granted to the apostle John, the Christian worldview. David Wheaton returns in just a moment the original stalwart solution created a colony in the howling New England winter just so they can worship according to the dictates of conscience, far more influence on world history than they could have ever imagined.

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Be sure to visit our website the Christian we can subscribe to a free weekly email an annual print newsletter resources for adults and children and support the ministry. Now back to today's program with host David Wheaton now this may sound like Bible 101 basic class by pastor Alastair figure, but I think it's helpful to have an overview of what the Bible is in the structure of it. So going from the Old Testament in the first five books the Pentateuch in the history of Israel and how God created the heavens and the earth going onto the judges and the kings getting into the history of Israel and then the poetic books, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, song of Solomon. Then he move into the prophecies of the Old Testament. See how these come true in the New Testament, it specifically would Jesus Christ go to Isaiah 53 read that that's incontrovertible that's referring to who Jesus Christ is in the sacrifice, the Messiah, he would be offering himself for the sins of the world that the Old Testament then you flip over to the New Testament in the narrative continues with the four biographies of Christ in the four Gospels, and then the start of the church in acts, and then the letters to the various churches in the doctrines of God laid out to the various believers in the first century and so forth and get to Revelation. And then again prophecy about what's to come in the future. It really is all very connected and it's helpful to know this structure so you can see that there is a certain flow to and he mentioned this in the message that will play the soundbite that it's a good idea to read the end of the book because then that will make more sense about what's predicted earlier in the Bible. Okay, let's get to the next soundbite what the ordinary people do that are viable in the ninth century or the 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th and 14th 15th century. No pastor in any of these centers ever admonished his congregation to make sure that they were reading their Bibles every day. He couldn't because they couldn't because they didn't have a lot and not until the Reformation and the great's triumphant statements of Luther here. I take my stand, I can do no other is suggesting to the Roman church that the future of the church is to be found in the people having the Bible in their own tongue in a way that they can understand. Of course, was an anathema to the pulpit that time. Luther stands and does this, the printing presses get alongside him and all of a sudden the ordinary Christian is able to take up this library and read it for themselves. 66 books written in a variety of languages, mainly in Hebrew and Greek over a period of more than a thousand years, originating in places as far apart as Babylon unrolled and penned by as many as 40 different individuals much for the Bible is is a library is a compendium rights of Alastair big mentions what it was like back in what is called the dark ages and you wonder why was it called the dark ages will because people didn't have the light of Scripture during that time, only the Roman Catholic Church had the Bible in a language that the regular people could not understand, and so they had no idea what the Bible said and you can see how that just creates a condition for false doctrine for control over people because people have no idea the Bible would say something differently than what they're being told by the priest and this is why the Reformation was so important. Starting in the early 1500s because Martin Luther started to read the Bible for himself and realize that the Roman Catholic Church was teaching things that were not so that were wrong, and then the printing press came out in the Bible began to be printed and men died over printing the Bible in the language that people could understand. The Catholic Church did not want this to happen because again it gave people the ability to read the word for themselves and of course as they begin to read the word from themselves. They begin to realize that what they're being told by their dominant church was in error. The Bible we have today. Perhaps the many Bibles you have in your home should be incredibly thankful that we have the word of God in our own language that we can read for ourselves and study it to accurately handle this word of truth with get to the next soundbite. It is about like no other book because it is a book about Jesus illusion. We are on the Bible. Always take your eyes back to Jesus. Always look for Jesus and it will gradually bring you back to an even keel. I've made almost a mantra here. I've tried to my own Sunday school instruction so that you would have it as well.

If you didn't get it when you're small that in the Old Testament. Jesus is predicted that in the Gospels. He is revealed that in the acts of the apostles. He is preached that in the epistles. He is explained and in the book of Revelation. He is expected of this may be the most important soundbite of the day here to realize that ultimately Scripture is about Jesus Christ. The Old Testament looks forward to the coming of Jesus Christ.

The New Testament reveals who this Jesus Christ is in now in the church age. We look back with the record of Scripture to who Jesus Christ is and what he did for us on the cross and oh by the way that he's coming again in the future. What the first question what is a second question is who wrote an answer to that is that Scripture has a dual authorship a dual authorship on the one hand, God wrote it on the other hand, men wrote out if you like, God spoke and men spoke we read here in two Timothy three this great statement and are 16 all Scripture is God breathed and that is this would provide Scripture with its reliability and with its authority that God has spoken, revealing truth and at the same time preserving the human authors from ever doing so in such a way so as not to violate their personalities so as I get and then to say that God spoke, but also men who spoke and then spoke using their faculties freely and doing so without distorting the message did you get those two points that God uses human personality without violating it and keeping men from ever and then using their own human faculties write things down without distorting the message. Others perhaps one classic reference to this is in two Peter 121 and their speaking of the work of God in Scripture says in verse 21 for prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were caddying along by the Holy Spirit know of course Alastair Biggs points year based on Scripture is incredibly important. The Bible says that God spoke in his word through the men who spoke in their own personalities and their own experiences, but they were directly led by the Holy Spirit.

It wasn't dictated to them that Indus write down what God spoke to them. But God came over them and led them so that their writing would not veer away from what God intended his word to be again this is to be believed by faith but the evidence for it in the connectedness of the Bible and the unity of the Bible and how it's put together, and how different authors written at different times in different areas are all writing the same themes in the same thing about Jesus Christ shows that there was one spirit guiding all these different authors of Scripture into having one unified theme so the wrote this Bible while ultimately God wrote the Bible, but men wrote the Bible. BB Warfield in a very helpful quote says it God wishes to give the people a series of lectures like Paul's. He prepares up all to write them and the Paul he brought to the task was up all who could spontaneously write such letters. But here's the issue. The church did not write the Bible prophets and apostles wrote the word to the people of God and the reliability of what the road lies in the fact that behind then is the work of the Holy Spirit. And this is the reason why the church has no right to rewrite what God has written. The church has no right to rewrite what God has written in the Scriptures, God was and is speaking to hats. He was speaking and he is speaking. If you want to listen to God. Open your Bible their safest way to hear God speak is to read your Bible and beware of every other notion about how you're going to hear from God. The mystical ideas that have come out of the dark centuries were understandably so, when they didn't have a Bible to guide them and to keep them.

They came up with all kinds of notion the trivial ideas of contemporary modern writing would seem to suggest that somehow or another we can hear from God. Absent what he has said in his word again Luther helps is what more can he say than to you he is said to you who to Jesus for refuge of flat. I warned you that some of the craziest people you will ever meet.

Are the people who have decided that the Bible is insufficient for them when it comes to hearing from God and some of the bypass Meadows of contemporary evangelicalism not directly related to a willingness to listen to books, no matter how influential the author may be, which suggests that the answer to your request is to be found over here in a corner somewhere listening for something finding out where God is going finding out what God is doing.

I dear friends and you want to know where he's going and what he's doing, read your Bible's. This is so well said.

And by the way this this issue of the inspiration of Scripture that God inspired the authors of Scripture to write his divine word is why many people say they don't believe the Bible. It is think men wrote it in just a book like any other. They won't believe in the supernatural, but they will believe in the impossible though believe that nothing became something and exploded into an ordered everything will believe that but they won't believe that the Holy Spirit came upon these men and directed them what to write to reveal God's word and then he gets into the fact that so common today for people to say and I'm sure you've heard it, God told me this or I felt God leading me in this. If you want to know what God is said read your Bible, you have the whole book industry today is countless books of the Evangelical book industry. 90% of them that's just a rough estimate generalization are not worth the paper they're printed on.

It's not worth you taking the time to read these humans take on some spiritual issue, read your Bible like he said in that soundbite beware any other notion how you hear from God, but directly from his word. See what is so important on this, incidentally, is the importance of the sermon is not desires and lives we were building. To this to justify your employment or something on you have to say that don't move, listen to somebody pontificate something. It is $0.10 worth of information that he's gleaned a few ideas a couple of jokes and illustration how do you do what's the point in that. I have no interest in that I have no interest in being a servant to that kind of objective to be made. The vehicle of God's truth through the Bible to be simply an servant to be underneath it to be holding in one's hand to be offering it afresh, something very different. That right there is the mark of a faithful pastor who puts himself under the authority of God's word with full confidence in holy Scripture to supernaturally transform people to save them and to sanctify them, he doesn't come to the pulpit, trying to think how can I make this more compelling with some of my own personal stories and how can I be some kind of motivational speaker to keep people's attention.

He trusts in God's word and all he has to do is unleash it from the pulpit every Sunday. Never going to get more into this next week. Part two on the Bible with more soundbites from this series by Alastair Begg but I want to spend the remaining part of the program on an issue that is taking place right now in our country that really hasn't been getting very much attention and it has to do with the Dobbs versus Jackson, Mississippi women's health organization case that the US Supreme Court is considering right now in our guest. To do this are Jamison Taylor, the president of the Center for political renewal and Rob Chambers, the vice president of policy and legislative affairs for American family Association, both from Mississippi were this law was put into effect is now being challenged in his run all the way up to the Supreme Court. Some are saying if this Mississippi law is upheld, it could lead to the overturning of Roe V Wade, Robin Jamison, let me start out by reading a short blurb from a column from American family Association. It says that the US Supreme Court will hear arguments and they've Artie done so on Mississippi's 2018 pro-life law that bans abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy. The case is titled Dobbs versus Jackson women's health organization that this is the line that's a big assertion here, it could very well lead the court to overturn its 1973 ruling in row versus Wade for the first time in nearly 50 years.

There is great hope. The article goes on to say that the United States of America could return to the biblical and constitutional view that unborn children are human beings created by God. The federal government has no right to sanction their abortion. One more paragraph in a brief to the court filed by Mississippi Atty. Gen. Lynn Fitch. She says, quote the national fever on abortion can break only when this court returns abortion policy to the states. It is time for the court to set this right and return this political debate to the political branches of government so just to summarize Mississippi were rear talking to you today the state of Mississippi has made history with a 15 week Bam 15 week abortion ban. So any babies unborn babies over that cannot be aborted anymore. The previous law ban abortions after 20 weeks and this makes Mississippi as the article goes on to say the most protective state for both the unborn and the baby's mother as well. Now without us context reading how this case has the potential to overturn Roe versus Wade who is challenging first of all this Mississippi law that came on 2018 and why does this case have such far-reaching implications. Compared to other legal challenges that have made against that of admitting us Roe versus Wade. This is Jamison wanting to look at with this case is just where we are historically a lot of things have come together to make this case possible friend since the election of Pres. Trump me without the Supreme Court justices that we now have in place. This case probably would not be heard in the case set out there you know you mentioned the law was passed by the Mississippi legislature in 2018 those dudes efforts of groups in Mississippi like AFA like myself working behind the scenes to get this done.

But this law was passed in 2018 and that it went to a federal district court where he was struck down it went to the circuit Court of Appeals where they were sympathetic, but also declined to uphold the law because they said look that Supreme Court has said that we can allow states basically to regulate abortion pre-viability. I think listeners should really think about how it's this is really something to the glory of God that this is happened and I can say that with a great deal of competence is 70 were quite a bed on the legislation literally circled the capital in prayer during the debates. This bill is not passed with a lot of fanfare. It was not pass with a multimillion dollar lobbying effort we have that one abortion clinic here in Mississippi.

They are being represented by basically the national pro-abortion groups that Francis the Center for reproductive rights in these groups are seeking to raise a lot of money on this case.

A lot of these groups they they can't just exist to raise money for themselves. Certainly there pro-abortion. But what they're really looking out for themselves are not looking out women's health are certainly not looking out for the well-being of babies and children so what will happen then if this Mississippi law is upheld by the Supreme Court. The beauty of, what's happened is we seen our Atty. Gen. and finches really decided to swing for the fences and asked the court to overturn warily way and to send their abortion policy back to the states because that's I think one thing a lot of people don't really understand that even if we overturn Roe V Wade that does not mean that abortion is certainly illegal throughout the United States. What that means is that each state go back to deciding their own abortion policy, which was the case for Roe V Wade so that means that the abortion fight will come to every Statehouse in America and so you your sink states like California. Saying that they're going to be a sanctuary statement for abortionists and abortions. Which is kind of horrific. If you really think that through but still have them you have stayed certainly like California and New York, which will continue to have portion so you will have other states like Mississippi, like Louisiana and Arkansas. The two I think restrict abortion quite a bit, and especially for the sake of protecting women's health.

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I have noticed very much mainstream media coverage of this case before the Supreme Court. Is it being covered very much in the in the mainstream media as I would think this is the sacrament of the left, the, the, the quote freedom to kill babies in the womb. This is you write the top the list of what they stand for and I would think they would be jumping up and down and scream from the house tops that you know their very existence is under threat and if if this Roe V Wade gets overturn so has been a lot of coverage in the mainstream media in this there is been some coverage in the mainstream media, but I don't think there's been a great deal of effort to provide accurate coverage. There is been kind of narratives of how this case is going to limit abortion in Mississippi. This case is going to limit abortion for low income women and for minorities and things like that mean we shouldn't be surprised right because mainstream media is not providing accurate coverage on many many many issues. I think you hit the nail on the head when you say that this is a kind of sacrament of the left almost literally in a certain respect overturning Roe V Wade is is truly revolutionary, it would represent a kind of seachange for America. This is very, very, very important. Looking for the court to issue a decision in June and will come to see what happens under the Roberts Ct., Chief Justice Roberts has been very careful in his previous decisions of some would say conservative but it's not conservative in terms of ideological conservatism. It's kind of judicial conservatism in which he hasn't really sought to break with previous precedents that could end up limiting what the court does in terms of him in my not be as aggressive as we would like to see them go by the boat will see and we seen that Roe V Wade, along with another case called KC have shown that just abortion jurisprudence makes no sense. So the court just needs to compress the reset button on Roe and Casey and S were hoping that this stops cases going to the again, Rob Chambers, the vice president, policy, legislative affairs for American family Association is with us today as well as Jamison Taylor, the president of Center for political renewal. Both of them were heavily involved in this case that percolated up out of Mississippi before the Supreme Court right now so just quickly tell us what the procedure here is there's been oral arguments, but the decision on the cases and actually made till next June. Next summer, and then part two of that is you mentioned a couple times are that Roe is just very bad constitutional decision, made out of whole cloth. Why is that the defendants in the case before the court had a hard time arguing even their points because there is no basis there is no constitutional basis. I think it's one thing that's that's really interesting here is is that the culture is overwhelmingly changed. The demographics tell us that that the younger generation. The generation Z, the GEN Y or millennial's that they are overwhelmingly pro-life, and so I think that's one thing that's really significant course, the court should not look at that culture to determine what should be held or not, but I think the media knows that the culture has shifted all this so that works against the left in the court and also fighting in science, as is more medical technology shows him what that is in the womb is a human being is just incontrovertible that abortion is the the intentional murder killing of a human life. Rob Chambers and Jamison Taylor with us today on the Christian Realty radio program and read a couple bullet points from the actual bill that came out of Mississippi. This was in the bill and unborn human being begins to move about in the womb at approximately eight weeks gestation. So eight weeks after conception, the baby begins to move about in the womb at nine weeks gestation. All basic physiological functions are present, teeth and eyes are present as well as external genitalia next one and unborn human beings. Vital organs begin to function at 10 weeks gestation, hair, fingernails and toenails also begin to form a Q mind that this bill is for abortions banning abortions anytime before 15 weeks.

All this is taking place before 15 weeks at 11 weeks gestation and unborn human beings diaphragm is developing here. She may even pick up. He or she is beginning to move about freely in the womb at 12 weeks gestation and unborn human being. I like the way they use that term over and over and unborn human being is not a fetus is not a cluster of cells need to humanize it and unborn human being can open and close his or her fingers starts to make sucking motions and senses stimulation from the world outside the womb, so we know all these things now with with medical science and development ultrasounds in whatever they do imaging. Yet despite all this over the last 50 years, and some of this is, say more in the last 2025 years so we don't excuse what happened for the first 25 years after Robo we know so much more now it's just incontrovertible that it's a human being, viable, and so forth. There is supposedly a 6 to 3 conservative majority in the court and what I heard you saying earlier is a mention president, former president trumps him a couple times, it was really important.

As a result of his Supreme Court nominees that were appointed they were three of them there was Neil Gore's itch, Brett Cavanaugh, and there was Amy Kony Barrett. He actually had three is a major thing.

Recent cases have shown that some of these who we thought were conservative appointees to the Supreme Court have been adjudicated that way. So as you look at this case, the six that you would say that would be at least assumed to be more on the conservative side will be John Roberts, Chief Justice which I think there's a lot of doubt there, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gore sits Brett Cavanaugh on Amy Kony Barrett at six we know how the other three are going to choose that it shouldn't be based on political ideology but unfortunately everyone's got a worldview Stephen Breyer, Sonia Soto, Mayor and Elena Kagan there going out for sure vote against this case, I would say so.

Which of those six that are supposedly conservative.

Do you think are most trustable in voting the way they should and this and which ones are you concerned about this is Rob. What I think is how strong or any of those number of justices going to be and in anchoring the court to protect life and be willing to overcome not only precedent but what would be considered super precedent which wouldn't really way would be argued as being super precedent. I think that that someone like Justice Amy Kony Barrett and Alito and Thomas could serve as what I would say maybe an anchor on the court and even provide guidance to to the other justices great, perhaps even Roberts and Cavanaugh, and Gore's itch so I think what use what we have and Amy Kony Barrett is a strong scholar a strong woman that understands the science if you will you as you are reading the legislative findings are the findings in the Mississippi scripting week will you were describing all these things in your hands, fingernails, hair beating heart. All these things your Bible tells us the heavens declare the glory of God and the look in the womb of the mother and we see the glory of God and God is opening up his own Majesty, his own creation for all people to see and I think that is what is so fabulous about the Mississippi law is that there is no mention of fetus. It's about the human being throughout. It doesn't mention Columbus sales.

It humanizes again from conception on is that was what a human being is our baby is her unborn child is a human being, it still takes quite a bit of effort to get legislation like this through their still forces like the medical lobby that you have to contend with and and they even speak to God and influence the would-be conservatives in the Pacific legislature.

Well, I just applaud you for all the work you've done and Jamison do you have anything that you want to add here at the end how listeners can be praying for this a lot can happen between now here we are in December 2021. This will be decided until summer 2022. Lots of time for influences on these justices lobbying efforts money all these different things going on.

Tell us what that we should be doing going forward here. Number one certainly, these pray and fast for this case for an end to abortion, but I'd also say to start where you are no just kind of pray and think about being pro-life and abstract go to the abortion clinic and DO witness their prey on the sidewalk. Maybe supporting foster care or adoption or whatever because it at the same time. This bill passed another bill of the children's promise act passed in which the state of Mississippi provides significant resources to support foster care and adoption. This current law of abortion is 62 million unborn children being murdered, killed in this country since Roe V Wade is not only a blight on our country, but it's a great offense to sin against God. And yes will not deal softly with a country who continues to disregard his clearly instated command to protect what life from conception, so we will be praying that these justices will rule in a biblical God honoring fashion think is great right now, Lord, we just come before you and I would live to each of these justices.

Lord Gerber tells us that the evil ended witness is taking place. Lord, that there is a battle even in the heavenly rounds and places that we can even see and it becomes manifested in the end, the decisions that people make Lord, the decisions light really weighed in 1973, a decision Lord that that opened the way to murder is as many as 60 million of your children or so following, pray for these justices. Lord in your general revelation, Lord, even we look up to the heavens. We know that there is a God Lord we open into the window. Thank you for your science Lord that even those that would not have even had an opportunity to to know what is.

Even within the world with what is developing in the womb that first science Lord. It's almost like looking up into the sky that the looking in these 3D sonograms Lord and things like that, or that we can see the developing child. Lord, what in amazement Lord that these children, your children are fearfully and wonderfully made, so probably pray a hedge of protection about these justices that they would decide on a righteous decision, Lord, that you would cause him to to think on deeper things Lord, that you would not help that you would help them to put aside their own biases. Lord, Lord, that all life is worthy of protection, Lord, because they are created in your image. Lord, they are your children. So father thank you for David. Bless him and bless his ministry. Lord, bless these these lawyers that have been that of argued in favor of the Mississippi law. Bless the Lord, and bless AG Lynn Fitch and bless your efforts Lord in the legislators that work hard to to get this bill onto the desk of the governor. Bless our leaders in Jesus name, amen. Thank you so much for doing that, that this is the power of prayer and the power of God to act. This is really has been seen so far in this case and be praying that it will be God's will for this to going further in in undo this this terrible wicked law that's been across our land for so many decades that you guys again for coming on the Christian worldview negative for David, but we are out of time today on the program but just to thank you for listening and can always go to our website to hear all of our archive programs and get transcripts thank you for your support of this ministry as well and as always if you have never repented of your sin and put your faith in Jesus Christ, go to our website and read the column. What must I do to be saved. That is the starting point of being right with God in the development of the Christian worldview. Let's remember Jesus Christ and his word are the same yesterday and today and forever until next time think biblically live accordingly and stand firm. The mission of the Christian worldview is to sharpen the biblical worldview of Christians and proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ. We hope today's broadcast encouraged for that and to hear a replay of today's program or to sign up for free weekly email to find out what must I do to be saved to your website the Christian or call us toll-free at 1-888-646-2233 Christian worldview as a listener supported ministry and furnished by the overcoming foundation, a nonprofit organization can find out more order resources make a donation become a monthly partner and contact us by visiting the Christian bowling toll-free 1-888-646-2233 writing to Box 41, Excelsior, MN 55331 Box 41, Excelsior, MN 55331. Thanks for listening to the Christian worldview.

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