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September 30, 2022 2:21 am

Open calls, questions, and discussion with Matt Slick LIVE in the studio. Topics include---1- Do Jehovah's Witnesses believe in the Trinity---2- Were those saints in the Old Testament regenerated---3- Matt discusses the order of salvation.--4- What is your understanding of Revelation 3-10---5- Are there degrees of punishment in hell---6- What's the proper understanding of Matthew 7-1.--7- Do Catholics understand the true gospel-

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The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network mass like why is the founder and president of apologetics. Research was found online for you have questions about Bible doctrine. Why is a lot of your questions at 877 Matt slick matchbook all you do is dial 877-207-2276 home a little. That's Dr. a lot of issues here are those who look at all the Facebook stuff you write so will be a working camera seven working chemist of today working on some new stuff to try to get some things going into my settings are really good right now. It's about my settings that were delivered better. All right for work on it okay if you give me a call 877-207-2276. I want to hear from you. Give me a call and will blab you go by the way will be down here know for the people out there. You talk down in Provo on Sunday to Sunday, the second preaching city on a hill sitting on the hill church and so are great folks there so people will be doing eats afterwards and you will stave you come up. Check it out all right so services at 10 o'clock that quick and slick.

Let's get on the air with Rudolph from Raleigh, North Carolina Rudolph, welcome on air. You open early print.

No, I don't deny the Trinity. They say the 23 gods that sometimes are represented accurately. But no, they did not doctrine the Trinity, the United Jesus Christ is God in flesh, they deny the truth of the gospel. They deny Christ's resurrection today. It's just a non-Christian cult non-Christian religion thing, but I would have heard that God yes and John, I'm going to say they've actually altered the Bible to make it fit within want this, not just me saying it. This is a fact they've actually altered the Scriptures in order to make the Bible say what they want to say and then they have the nerve to claim that their translation is the best but it's not.

There are scholars who offer to debate the jewels with us, so to speak. Experts and Alyssa say that they don't do very well. The victim was ever taken him up on because a good career center to Okay thank you very much that followed by you to go bless all rights you may call. We have three open lines 877-207-2276. Let's get to get this rental from Kentucky read a lot of your on here about regenerates you and Kelly powers and it brought up about being born again and everything and he was like the great generation or to get that well where this thing out with a debates about what was happening and some say some hold the idea that you have a were regenerated in the Old Testament. Some said no, they were not because they didn't have the. The truth of the gospel, having presented the sacrifice of Christ already presented so that there was a kind of indwelling but not in a permanent way. That's one of the theories so sometimes some will say you know when the Davidson do not take your Holy Spirit from me. They think that that means that you can lose your salvation, but not necessarily so. Some say will because the sacrifice hadn't been offered yet and the Holy Spirit could not indwell a person permanently in the Old Testament, but I don't believe that's true I believe.

I think the gospel was instituted by Christ, the pre-incarnate Christ in the garden and that just as Abraham was justified by faith. Fourth recording. Genesis 15 Sixers of seven then we they would justify the same way and there would be a type of generation going on so I it's hard exactly say, but the other say the same when the Old Testament is that we are in a new okay like John three talk about importing here.

Is there anything that you and that that would cause that created it look like he was playing games he should be get out of that regeneration of the thing that could happen and I still want to get this right will part of the reason is because beauty John chapter 3 my notes in there is in reference to Ezekiel 25 I believe it is talks about the Lord and his work with watcher of the on the new birth, and so it's the Old Testament so you think you should know these things that was going on there and I'm looking for my notes in my soul, and with giggle distracted by trying to find what you think the discussion we had ever that part about quirky dwelling on the logic of the art like I think you wanted that. Well, what about that thing or not regenerate that it shows you know that it and that irreducible gray think that it would be a problem. You promise to regenerate and they were also justified his regeneration and enters the question what exactly is regeneration. We don't know exactly what it's being born again.

"By God, there's a change in the house. We know that there are certain characteristics associated with so we know that there were people who love God listed David for example, you know he do some pretty bad stuff but you love the Lord God blessed him and you even Abraham it was, it was justified by faith. So if a member justified by faith. That means he saved. Well if that's the case, how can you be saved and not be regenerate and not have God living in you indwelling. It would not make sense. Also part. Yes, it certainly certainly seems like it would certainly make sense. I found the verse it's actually in Ezekiel 3625 because Jesus says in John 310, the Nicodemus is is are you a teacher visually don't understand these things well. In Ezekiel 3625 God says I will sprinkle clean water on you, and I will and you will be clean.

I will cleanse you from under filthiness from all your idols. So, some say that he probably was referring to that kind of thing in the Old Testament, but there's other things as well. Tied to that. But the did you pick that you are not discussion did you understand the issue is raising about the logical priority of regeneration, proceeding, faith, but I'm totally I got really lucky struggle and for some reason I think even the simple thing of aborting an awful lot. I would love to hear you like the feel of focus on the one Lord, I think it would help but think that I was interested in the distracted.

I think I'm lacking in their yeah I will agree something that you do something was lacking. He was Alyssa say he was very antagonistic, very interesting, aggressive, and you had to call him on that significant stop so I was part of it, but we settled on a good conversation about their civil God. I like appreciate thank you for everything you appreciate their romance go bless okay go see like you may call all you do is dial 877-207-2276. I want to hear from you. Give me call it were talk about this discussion I had with someone and it was an interesting discussion. My opponents became a little bit obstreperous. One point I had to tell him to stop that and an event when the good discussion we talked about the issue of regeneration proceeding. Faith was one of the issues were talk about this regeneration. What is regeneration regeneration is the work of God on us and in the office where he changes us that it's likened to being born again to be born again we had to have a regeneration to see the kingdom of God. One of the questions I will ask Rob last will deal with in the issue of the New Testament revelation of Scripture is can you be regenerate and not justified the same time, of course, you can't be you had to be regenerate just justified justified means your legal declaration of righteousness. Or at least that's the case, which comes first visit faith or regeneration because we had to illustrate the logical problem if we say temporal priority.

So for the say for example that faith precedes regeneration.

Let's say by five seconds say it is five seconds, but let's just use it as a number of say five seconds if that's the case that we have some news regenerate who is not a believer.

For the period of time and that's a problem to logical problem you have that you have someone who is regenerate and then five seconds later becomes a believer then you have a regenerate person who's not a believer. At the same time for. Time and that's logically problematic. So the solution is in what we call logical priority not temporal priority, logical priority deals with what must come first. In order for another to exist, but they happen simultaneously. For example, eternal light when the light hits the lightbulb publicity when electricity hits the lightbulb when electricity hits that lightbulb light is automatically there there simultaneous when light is skinny when electricity is there life is also there there both occur at the same time. But electricity is the cause of the light.

The light is not the cause of the electricity, though there simultaneous and sold electricity is called logically prior not temporally prior simultaneous to logical priority and the issue is that it must be there electricity in order for the other thing to be there simultaneous good is the cause of so in reformed theology. We say that regeneration is logically prior to face in that it must be there in place in order for faith to occur, but they occur at the same time and so God is one who regenerates us he causes us to be born again. First Peter 13 were born again, not of our own well. John 113 meets God's work. Upon estimate is born again mixed changed is something that God does to expel the result of that used of course that we fully believe, and he aggressively believe that this 129 so these are the arguments. These are the issues that were talking about here in self.

It's a lot of discussion now to say something I think is really important because we need to establish unity of the body Christ because her unbelievers going to hell and are too many people out there who will say, for example, the Calvinists or cultists or don't believe the true God of the true gospel to the elitist. It's like it go away and they raised to a level of nonessentials. A visit to the essentials and judge people to cause division of the body Christ is that hey folks, there's a break five of the lines 877-207-2276 will be right back mass like why call 77077 charismatic slave back to the show 72076 I will hear from you a call all right now. So what we do here in the radio of courses I teach theology and I try and answer questions. I would do this for a long time and is been right about everything, but I want you to understand that you need to be checking what I say good Scripture acts 1711 says to be. That means you will check even check with Paul set against the word of God and he said there were no will not find it so I am thinking that as Christians were listening. Your deepest trust whenever you hear the radio you should not do that. You should listen critically this person saying this and you should really say what I don't agree or I do agree. Or here's the reason I do or don't. This is important. You can't just believe whatever parties saying this is a problem because in the world, particularly in secularism. The news media says you know these leftist liars flat liars. They serve safe the people to believe up the steps that I have personally encountered people who have believed things about me personally. They're just not true. They hear things gossip get started and any rate, it gets bad and what I'm saying is you know what do you check what people say yes to what God do you do that you don't have to be hot difficulty don't have to get super deep in and do an eight hour study. For one thing, but do you read that word enough to be able to say quite a bit.

That's correct, or and you study because you gotta do is encouraging people to do that in one of the ways to do that is to open your Bible of and just read it slowly. I actually teach people talk about the sump say look read the Bible. Two different ways. Take a chapter for example and that maybe there's a verse one look at in that chapter. So I say take the chapter and read the chapter as fast as you possibly can just really really fast enough focusing on any one thing is going to get you to do it.

You will get the overall thing of the chapter as fast as you can then read it about half as fast second time then go to that single verse and read that verse or two verses were produced in thing and say okay what's it saying in the overall context. It's a quick trick and it works. Believe it or not it helps you see the overall context of what's going on. Usually, not always, but that's a good thing to do. I do recommend that it sounds weird but you know what it works. It really does all right, let's get on the air with Elijah from Philadelphia Elisha welcome you are on the air all right.

Hang in there man what you all I wanted to know what your understanding of Revelation 3 and where the earth where three pervert like the day that you know they innately keep it from the great tribulation rapture out and out looking right here at the Bible referred and wanted a meeting date on Bible thing here is during the water in the winter it yeah it's so response to temp temptation trial.

Things like having to test.

So I you know I say to the pre-tremors and stuff in the go that versus it will what's the context was was written to his or into the entire church was written to the church of Philadelphia and assess to the angel of the church of Philadelphia right he was holy he was true that your deeds. Behold, those who are sick.

I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan who will say that they are Jews and are not, but Lyle make them come and bow down at your feet and make them know that I have loved you, because you have perseverance households keep if they are testing. Wait a minute. If this is creature rapture, then where is it that the people to come down a bit and bow down to the feet of the Christians just simple with people often do is to read one verse out of context and misapplied misapplied method of doing that. It's not about the rapture not about the trip illiquid tribulation. It's specifically written to the church of Philadelphia and in the context it talks about the wicked people bowing down before the people of Philadelphia in the church besides contest the whole world okay to contest the whole world, then, does that mean then that it's approved it's rapture.

This could make this a jubilation. If it is that we have to understand how the other stuff fits in with it is recessed to test the whole world. The whole earth. We know that what came up.

After Revelation was written was the dispersion of the Jews and the Christians with Mediterranean area because they were persecuted by the Roman Empire.

And so it looks like that was fulfilled. At that time because the book of Revelation. A lot people don't realize was written in code so that those who study the Old Testament would understand the idea of what was taught Revelation so that those who got the book like the Romans and a lot of the Jews would understand because they didn't have the mind of Christ, they wouldn't know what was going on. So what did a lot of people think that what's going on with the book of Revelation. It was written to the people of that time and the people of that time understood exactly what was going on. The temptation from Philadelphia. The SUV, the persecution upon the church that was good to come to them.

He's going to deliver them through it and people did they fled. They hid themselves they disappeared to hold that and so for someone to say what this means, were not to go to this relation. It just doesn't say that that's not what it says at all. Also, bring it on the butt. If you look up because I know you'll do all about the millennialism and the old to the view that in Revelation 20. The ankle pain. Violet and the dog noted that in the computer or if you look at the Hebrew meaning of people to agree on the strong neglect, by Bob working at the look of this conflict conferencing and Revelation 20 you to different Greek words pertaining to send one word for what clicks the word chain date that you thought you two different Greek word worker came for King K ING came the sound were you see how it spell the word. The eight a I chain chain, a chain okay oh hey yellow chains. All right, so you I'm not sure it has to okay but your or and Revelation 20 other people you different Greek word for King okay yeah I don't see I don't see in the NASB consumer chain and for specific future for so unless what you want to say is that it's in the King James Sue second Peter 24 year chains you yeah and chains and there is 4577 samurai's Dominican breath. Okay so look at it back okay folk say please hold on to Rebecca for his messages reopen lines 877-207-2277 mass Y call 77077 charismatic slave back. Still, there all right this is really interesting, so I studied this during the break and I was really I'm really intrigued because in the King James this in the NASB says pits of darkness, for the word chains and the ESV says chains of gloomy darkness. The King James has chains of darkness, the new King James has chains of darkness, the RSV says loom pits of of the nether gloom LTB says chains of darkness and then gloomy dungeons in the NIV and that's really interesting is these different translations. I looked at it and it's this that way. The NASB translates the word. It's a career for its okay hold goal was to get into this actually quite a bit second or two forks and the cast into hell and pits of darkness of the word pits.

There, in and of the Greek's essay, Rice and it's the word translated as chains and but when I looked at the lexicon.

This is what it says accord found a chain in second Peter two for the chains mentioned are not to be understood as literal material shackles expression of darkness indicates that darkness itself somehow serve to restrain these fallen thanks beings because were darkness sold so soulful, so food is there. So pits of darkness, chains of darkness, so that it doesn't make sense to say literal chains of darkness. This is why the NASB says pits, which seems to relate over to Jude 6 which talks about the, the fallen angels did not keep their first abode is been Our catheter bonds of darkness.

It's just it's really interesting accident ahead of time to get through the morbid like wow I love and what I'm saying. So I'm not sure it helps anything but is more information to go. It was a question as we get back on track. All my words good, but the Greek word for think they're different from any Revelation 20. I was a look: thank you look at a mate, you are on the thumping wing for the detainment Revelation 21 of the symbolic that that was actually reading the second Peter 24 because of the context. The it will be chains of darkness with how to give chains of darkness, the implication is that darkness somehow is binding them is that mean it's It's this website is really intriguing to see the before so figuratively, and Revelation 20 says to keep the abyss and a great chain in his hand chains as in change for the hands and feet manacles shackles is how that used and so is talking about literal chains to be natural chain word but it's getting book and obviously it's it's a literal chain use of the figurative somethings with a figurative use of the term chain is what it comes down to. So reading some more so than prison for chaining the right arm to the left of the soldier who guarded them that that's what the word chain is so anyway so John is using the term in Revelation 20. And you're right it is different word.

I think that the word in answer, Peter. Two for I think is really interesting why it says pits of darkness versus chains of darkness, pits of darkness, change of gloomy darkness. Chains of this you are or Eric finger frog sure sure phone and go ahead. All though you ever going to call you about the guy guy gave him a vision of hell being plucked up and up and up in a prison filling out okay yeah all thought if we get a criminal Bible for work like we went back to what you thought you want to go to Isaiah 24, 21 okay so will happen in that day that the Lord will punish the host of heaven on high, and the kings of the earth on high, you will be gathered together like prisoners in the dungeon and will be confined in prison. Okay, and after many days will be punished okay okay you so yeah, I could see that but I'm cautious about interpreting it that way. But anyway I see Julie saying that other the that what yeah I'm sure there are. Here's the thing we know that the wicked are to be cast in the lake of fire. If there any prison cell is the prison cell cast in the lake of fire. Or they remove from a prison cell in the afterlife and cast. We know that in Luke 1619 to 31 Lazarus and the rich man he wasn't ends any kind of container so we will see that kind of thing so it says here. Isaiah 4024 22 so happened that day little punish the host of heaven on high, and the kings of the earth. They will be gathered together like this is like prisoners so I like prisoners in the dungeon and will be confined in prison and after many days of the punished so as a prison a little prison or is it a restriction, confinement of less of freedom is using an analogy, that's the question I would ask at that point Concerta started see the reading you yeah you heard of the ENT urgently delegated little okay on the cover to see on right Isaiah so you think month 21 and two. Okay ESV the together together as prisoners in a pit will be shut up in a prison.

After many days of the punished that's verse 2221 of them was 22. Okay so well. If you have the previous verse, the ESV says on the day little punish the host of heaven in heaven. The kings of the earth on the earth. You so anyway what was so this guy saying that that means that when you die, the bad people going to prison cell. All not all of them you want to divert outward greater damage to the young actor in a different format and the ones out that that bird and not in a many other verses was appointed for the filled out but but but I'll quickly think that the current plate of hell. Now, where were the though it also fire of hell as well. He think that he thought people burning down there. He thought that that plate current hell is going to be thrown into the lake of fire like Revelation 2015. At that that are actually interesting as I didn't paying attention to online YouTube to NDE's near-death experiences just because are popping up at her watch and if you enter some wacko ones and other the ethereal presence of oneness with the University hundred been deceived. Obviously, you'll find too many about bad situation.

Usually it's really good everything is good and so I want to start finding the ones where they say it was was horrible list with the commonalities between them. The only reason I will even entertain that possibility is because a second Corinthians 12 two through four which were Paul says I know man 14 years ago, whether in the body are the body I do not know, but such man was caught up in the third heaven, he saw things, etc. so it looks like it might be Paul who was stoned to talk about himself as were the commentaries series, but nevertheless in the body around the body do not know, but he was alive and he went someplace so I think that sufficient evidence of satyrs and NDE and we continue on after death, and I don't see the reason why people can actually experience certain things and then of report them back so that's what I'm interested in that more and more, so there are different degrees of punishment.

People do describe Brenda's stuff.

Fact one of the eldest, I'm rambling here little bit quickly, but one of the things I read once in a book on NDE's were that the E art particular ER doctor had never had any experience with this before and was in the ER and giving CPR doing chest compressions on a guy and he was gone and is working to bring them back and he said that this guy woke up and was screaming and grabbed the doctor by the smock was yelling. Don't let me die I'm in hell yelling and screaming and he died. They will hold on to break the hold on there.

You want to go or not. For lines 87720776 mass Y call 770-7276 charismatic slave back to the last is still there are interesting conversation and I like the one thing leads to another to another.

I enjoy that. If I answered your original question with you. She was booked. Enjoy our conversation all you want it. Retweet thank you video of it like a German word you get a look at thousands of thousands of emails but answers, I just wiped out so many but doesn't to me to be checking out. I like NDE stories and check in. Okay, yeah, and in the before I go.

I felt one more verse were held at the Robert 7.7 in the believe that you check things out. Our vision of you to go. Plus, it's okay for lines 877-207-2276 is good to Montauk from Florida here model the storms my wife yet.

After welcoming on the offer roared her. I want to know what the proper context. Understanding all not want.

Do not judge Siegel not be judged for the way that you judge be judged by the standards of measure so you understand, is that what he's talking about is the Jews because he's talking here in the Beatitudes and the Beatitudes are generic principles of of behavior and belief that we are to have the Jews were very judgmental people because they had the law, the oracles of God and so they were very judgmental, very judgment and Paul talks about this Roma chapter 2 sorties based Jesus is saying the same. Don't judge us.

You will be judged in the way that you judge, you can be judged.

That's what he's saying. That doesn't mean we can't make spiritual judgments because spiritual judgments enforcement is 215.

For example, someone murdering because a page you're wrong for doing that. That is a spiritual judgment and were judge in person, you are wrong. You are in sin, we can certainly do that the Bible supports. That's what Jesus is talking about is the general idea of the Jews who were awfully condemning of the Gentiles and other people because they were self-righteous.

Don't judge okay. Do not judge, so you will not be judged because by the standard that you judge you judge yourself so you're saying you keep in the law and you don't, you're in trouble. But this is that what's basically going on okay there also that brought out the ultimate dog Google I'll ever write. No preacher can bring Google will help you have the authority to condemn anybody but we have the authority to pronounce condemnation upon people he seeks.

If someone is saying, Jesus is not God. For example, will that I can say look, if you continue to deny that and to affirm that Jesus is not God. You deny who he is. Your on your way to hell. I can call your brother right now. You're the stated donation. I'm not judging their them that I sent a people sick. I'm informing you of the situation. I'm not making the judgment repeating you to you what Jesus has said Jesus had jotted 24. Unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins. So I do as I informed people you're judging me.

Nope judgment belongs to God. I'm informing you about this and I will make spiritual judgments and I will tell you that as long as you continue to deny him. You are going to go to hell you need to repent is not being mean is me informing you. That's how I handled with all her right anything else you would like to know the number one bird working on the link or not. All that God lifetimes on unbelievers is using verse and LCD did you hear that the cook to hear what I say we don't like virtually repent a context is a unique visitors in the context of stock so have fun with. Okay. All right. Earth all right okay is a reminder from Florida and we have nobody waiting to want to give me a call 87720722760. This reminds me there's a particular verse I John 2023 that are used that is used by people in this issue of judgment when Matthew 71 judge that should be judged 72 that you be judged by the way that you judge others, so this way you be careful how you judge people and weeds are underside we can expect will judgments now can we then pronounce judgment on someone. Yes, we can if what were doing is informing them about what God has already revealed we're not condemning we're telling them there condemned. That's what were doing so I could connect the dots going to jump over this verse John 2023. The Catholics and Eastern Orthodox like to use this a lot if you forgive the sins of any of their sins have been forgiven if you retain the sins of any, there's they have been retained and what they want to say is that the priests have the authority to make the judgment they can judge people they can forgive their sins pronounce forgiveness and not relax. You have the authority to actually do that at the NSA and I tell them if you look at the verse says if you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven now have been forgiven is interesting because what it's saying is they've already been forgiven because have been forgiven. In the Greek is the perfect tense. This is important because the perfect tense for example, her present tense. I eat the perfect tense is I have eaten.

The pluperfect is I had so when I say I eat in the present tense is just an occurrence. Now if I see I have eaten is an action in the past that continues in the present. You say I have eaten doesn't mean you stopped by to say I had eaten right had walked right had thought about it means that it was a past action completed in the past were perfect tense of past action continuing in the present and this is perfect tense of past action continuing the present. If you forgive the sins their sins have been forgiven.

That means it's already done in the past and going on now so this is an issue that's really important because the Catholic cultist."

This sins is as if you quoted actually for sins are forgiven, they are forgive in the forgiven the say that this is the great they have been forgiven and they elected skip that part. If you retain the sins they have been retained. So what's going on.

They are not pronouncing the actual act of forgiveness as if they have authority to do it, but they are pronouncing what is already occurred informing that's what's going on John 2023. Furthermore, if it's the case as a Catholic like to say that the priest give heavy help have the opportunity or the ability to forgive sins that I have a question. Is Jesus then obligated to forgive Senate the priest declares it to the priest declares them to be forgiven. This Jesus got a come through. It's okay and I got sick I forgiven out to the present South.

He's got authority with was a mistake for the priest where he forgive some of that is not the will of Christ. To do so.

These are questions with the talk about and ask etc. etc. let's get to a more and luck on your on here about five so the way to gather and avoid washing and the opening of the thing they had yes it stops them yesterday believe in the Trinity and the Catholic Church is a very good understanding and teaching on the Trinity does, but they deny that the true gospel and they are idolaters so they deny the true gospel that were justified by faith alone in Christ alone.

Paragraph 26 date of 2016, the Catholic catechism must says that you obtain salvation by faith, baptism and the observance of the commandments. So they teach a false gospel.

Okay so anyway yes I don't mailing it will with a Jew with Mary incidentally is raise her to the functioning level of the goddess of all say she's not a goddess but I'll say will look this Mary here millions of prayers simultaneously all over the earth in different languages both thought and spoken, and she knows the intention of the hearts of the people crying in the Civil yes there you go is a function goddess, not you, not a goddess, and they just did it just is called cognitive dissonance on their part. They can't see the footage. It's also called my name is Thurgood going okay. All right. And thanks God bless appreciated all right since I have stuff up here my file on Mary and with that a little bit, check this out in paragraph 971 it says devotion to Mary expresses this is the liturgical feasts dedicated to the mother of God and Mary in prayer such as a rosary underpinning me of the gospel express this devotion to Mary, and paragraph 2677 they said you would trust our cares to Mary in 26 of the seven you ask Mary to pray for you. They pray to Mary okay and they call her the all holy one that see she is the perfect pray. When you praise a figure the church. We pray to her word, hearing with her to the plane of the father. Paragraph 2679 in paragraph 971 it says the liturgical feasts dedicated the mother of God and Mary in prayer such as a rosary are the epitome of the whole gospel is ridiculous.

Mary is worshiped as the Vatican Council, to page 420. When she marries a subject preaching in the worship she prompts a faithful to cumbersome and I love this one paragraph 972.

I asked Catholics. I say do you agree with this.

After speaking to the church her origin, mission and destiny.

We can find no better way to conclude, but then by looking to Mary do agree with that. Paragraph 972. The catechism of the Catholic Church.

They say yes, I see. So the best way. The best way is look to Mary not Jesus right after speaking of the church her origin. The mission and destiny of the church.

The best way to look at the Mary not Jesus is.

To me it just blatant idolatry about paragraph 27, 26, 77, by trusting ourselves to her prayer, we abandon ourselves to the will of God together with her and trusting herself to her prayer. I don't trust myself to Mary's prayer. I trust myself to Jesus about this. See let's eat. She's medical conception. Mary is the all holy one. I will read all the bookcase all the time I get this paragraph stuff about her, you will believe what they say. It's idolatry. The way folks there you go tomorrow to talk about Catholicism. I can tell you stuff you never heard before of good bad news. They were at a time in the Lord bless you have a great complex. Another program powered by the Truth Network

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