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We've talked about deliverance and in renewing your mind, which I think is probably even more important, it is you walking it out as we talked about in this show year we wanted to talk about what it's like, what is the new church and look like were small groups to look like and to start out there's a lady that we know who we have a prayer meeting with and that by thinking of something with her, but she had a dream where she said she saw all these little fish that were moving. She said, like millions of little fish and all of a sudden she was on the boat. She said there were just all of these like whales that were dead in the water and she said she asked the Lord was the meaning of this and he said the big whales and stuff with the manatees. Those are the. The big institutionalized church in the little fish of the individuals or maybe the small groups, but how did you guys get into this so we were in Africa born again we realize there was more than just reading your Bible and things like that. There is also service in the body of Christ and 75 Christ as we had guests and we start to realize we had tests of the spirit and start operating knives and subs are ministering in big churches and I'm an it was fine at the time, but there was a lot of pressure that came at that pressure that I don't think is of the Lord because it did not lead me to the vet necessary. The best place on end, but then at the same time we had this call to get overseas missions and we had a huge heart for places like unreached people groups and this is where it was illegal to share the gospel on so we began to do that and so he moved to Nepal where it is illegal to baptize, you can be arrested for baptizing someone because in Nepal they don't care about your conversion story. They know when you get baptized. That truly means you are leaving the Hindu or the Buddhist state so you can go to prison for that. Yeah you on so we would baptize people in our apartment that we had a small apartment, we happy about. We ought to baptism with us of his thought about teasing you to pop it up anywhere and baptize someone and it was in our bathroom so that we could do it in a private kind of people that own the house that we are staying in that it was bathtub as we will. I really get there like what is that is not they were actually the high-ranking is Hindu family and renting from so yes and asked us to eat meat in their apartment a that we did that on accident, not accident, but anyway, you guys don't eat meat anymore. I think for us when we went overseas what disgusted us the most about what was happening wise when you go overseas and you start to share the gospel with people who have nothing literally three dollars and the average amount of money to make Nepal a day have nothing and all the sudden you see these white Americans or Westerners come over to have money, they begin to preach the gospel and they think you have. They have to look like us and do like us and then we get these pastoral positions to these people and all the sudden their income went from three dollars a day to $5000 a year, $10,000 a year to then that's a lot of money and all the sudden we started to see. Time after time country after country people coming to the gospel and other countries for the wrong reason because they just want to become a pastor because they got paid, and then we were hearing of churches where the pastor is beating women behind closed doors either being not faithful in all these things are like Lord what that would never happen in America right well you'll find out that all my gosh, there's so much coming out right now but what happens is we have built up traditions of man that have nullified the power of God, the power of the gospel which is literally like like thorns has choked out the real gospel and people are coming to God with wrong motives and impure heart and what we notice when you do that and you start building a church with numbers. People fall through the cracks because nobody knows where there really so when we started doing this in an overseas first of all, you can't just go build a baptize somebody or build a building and all these things we have to actually start meeting in the homes and we sell radical transformation and just and I both heard from the Lord to go home and do this and I was like Lord if we leave