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Falling Away From The Faith Part 2

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September 6, 2020 4:00 pm

Falling Away From The Faith Part 2

Man Talk / Will Hardy and Roy Jones Jr.

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September 6, 2020 4:00 pm

Welcome to Man Talk, with your Hosts Will Hardy and Roy Jones Jr. Roy and Will continue their discussion from last week on how people and the church seem to be falling away from the faith. This is an episode that you don't want to miss folks.

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This is the Truth Network welcome to man talk brought to you by T8 W CM is talking and walking Christian men's ministry where they're devoted to breaking down the walls of race, age, challenging, and that take their God assigned as our host will Hardy and Roy Jones Junior a black eye and a white welcome back to the man thought, and I am like God and I will Hardy that other guy, but it's a document uses know we we just change it up very hey, welcome back it with a great great program last week works on continued conversations we can is based around people moving away from what we call strong faith and moral base live by which is the Bible to move away from traditional biblical thinking right will exactly how the church as we as we've grown up knowing as we continue to preach and teach men each week how important this is new life. That's right. And we were reading from a Christian Post article that you had introduced us to, and some statistics that were in there were just shocking and alarming and in things concerning what people believe and how they believe that there is more than one way for salvation and all you have to do is be a good person and I'll decide which if they understood the truth they would know you know if they really sought the truth they would know that we are not inherently good, so there's no there's no good in us, so we want to continue with this article because we only got about halfway Roy from from last time. We've got a quick talking so much. Will probably a good thing or not passing about all know we love to talk about but you know before we start Roy. I do want to give a shout out to all of the listeners and and the positive feedback that we have gotten some emails and voicemails that I have received a look over the course of you know couple years now and they haven't been a whole lot but I do want to just think the listeners for listening and their feedback because again it's very encouraging that there is a listener base out there and they understand what we are trying to do in reference to tackling some issues that are just tough issues. Yeah it's very good point when I would like to thank you as well will thank you so much for bringing that up to acknowledge him as well on this topic. We don't talk a lot about this because we don't, talk about ourselves, but we would like for you to reach out subscribe to the podcast man talk radio podcast and pass it on to friends and family and we would love to hear from you through some topic you like to first explore and to reach us at www.talk.com is T a W CMM.com is our contact form will more than happy to pick up your topic and address it in the and share with you where your heart is what God puts our hearts talk about a man so in this.

The other half of this article, Roy. It says 55% said that the Bible is not God's authoritative and true word and 69% said people are basically good. Now what you have to say about that. Okay let me mirror back 55% said that the Bible is not the authoritative word. 55% of these are of cortical Christians exactly I'm speechless exactly. Some species of me. What do you say to some something that so off-the-wall and I think it's it goes back to the point that you sit stated earlier, is that the church is slowly slowly becoming the world coming the world.

So we are starting to look like the world and that's I think some of that is because from a past oriole perspective. You know now with this covert, 19, and I'm talking to pastors all the time. I mean weekly.

I'm talking to a pastor in some capacity because we have a little network and I asked him almost weekly. You know how are the people started to come back and for the most part they're saying no, they're not coming back date they are you know getting online and they're doing the you know virtual services and things like that which I think that's become the norm now in in this environment. It has but but I lastingly say no and NC and I think and I asked why and they say well for the older ones which you know a lot of congregants are that a are of that age are six years old and older. They say that they they fear of getting covert right and and I think that's mainly because there is not a working vaccine right now believe if a vaccine was available we would probably start to see the numbers and people coming up but I think until that time. It's just going to be stagnant and and I course am thinking about always those congregations that are large congregations who have like really big budgets right, you know, and if people are not giving like online or give, you know, that's that takes a bite into the church is over.

Sure, we know we talked about that before, will I think the churches can be purchased at the people that were sitting on the sideline to begin with the work necessarily will force will say maybe were this will be the goats and sheep are been separated that they weren't really followers of Christ. They were checking the box, so if they get purged this in the early get sidetracked. As result of this coven.

They don't come back is because it got no habit. Maybe they didn't have the relationship they thought they had or needed to have to to stay in the fight the other things that is a lot of people looking for answers that should be every person out there should be if they've never thought about the orthogonal eternity or what can happen after I die, they should be thinking about it now because when something is globals this is and can create so much economic stress so much physical or mental stress what I talk about the number of this because we know that number proportionally speaking is not really large against the local population.

A death is bad but we know, statistically, is not as bad as it could be with the number of cases been diagnosed.

If they're not waking up now to ask the question what's after this was after this life. I don't know what's going get them wake think God has allowed this to happen to bring his people home a man of his people and we know not everybody will choose right, but everyone has an opportunity to choose a man and so that that leads us into this next point that Bono which is George Barna. You know he's the Christian statistician that keeps up with a lot of statistics and do a lot of surveys. He said that if you look at some of the dominant elements in the American mind and heart today as illuminated by the inventory. Most people believe that the purpose of life is feeling good about yourself so so that that's their whole purpose for being here, and interacting with other people is just feeling good about yourself. So if I feel good about myself then that's enough to get me in heaven was that database the Christian database was that people in general was he referring to people in general that this is Christian database so there I know. Again, the great commission. So if we are tomorrow our life. After Christ as men, women, means being a servant serving others others before self love your neighbor as yourself, then it's not about myself, so therefore back to the earth, is not the authoritative word of God. 50% of sales not authoritative word of God. Therefore, I will need to be the only default rule so only to model myself after Christ alone and make disciples of all nations as need be worried about me is what you're saying that the statistics of a man and so I want to take our listening audience attention to the speaker to partner if you want to go it, we will make what were not saying that's the way you should be leading with the statistics this if you just turned in their distant in what you know this is not the way men talk radio feels or believes or will Roy teach or preach from helicopters to share with others, and so we would say go back and listen to part one part of this wonderful letterwriting head and you'll get understanding. So first Timothy chapter 4 verses 1 to 11. Now the spirit speaks expressly says that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of devils. This goes consistent with the other scripture that says in the end days are last days wrong will become right right will become wrong and that's exactly what were saying what we are seeing a reversal. You know where we are seeing our the society is reversing from the values in which this country was built off yet. I think right now is a good point so focused on the wake up.

It really is time to put the brakes on and get out of all about me syndrome because tomorrow may never come.

We talked about this tomorrow may never come. If you're listening to us today knew not made a commitment for Christ. What if tomorrow never comes for you when you go to bed tonight you don't wake up tomorrow what you can call from a car accident and you don't have an opportunity to make the decision. Where are you ready for eternity. Are you ready for eternity. You know, and we lost the amendment church this week that the in a tragic car accident 19 years old, so that this comes to mind folks tomorrow is not guaranteed God all is going one knows the time the place could not made a decision on call me now to make a decision for Christ, so that you make it home and don't give heed to everything that's sounds good, let God bless you to investigate things that you come in contact with. Just don't take peoples advice face value to search the Scripture getting there and let the word of God begin to speak to you because everything everything that sounds good is not good for you right, you know so so EE people could come back and start saying you know this is what I would do if I was in your situation, but are they prepared to suffer some repercussions. As a result, right right know because they're not going to be at your in your house did not go to be living there, they going to be you know in the next county or whatever wherever they live. So they are not going to see and experience any any thing that you will experience because you're at home so let's all be coming up with here on another break here, praise God.

But I want to I want to get this In most people -containing will pick us up after the break.

Most people contend that all faiths are of equal value.

This again is coming from the article, the question posed in the statistics was done by George Barna all faith are of equal value that entry into God's eternal presence is determined by one's personal means of choice.

See going back to what we talked about what's good for you is good for you was there for me. So my personal choice will in fact provide eternity absolutely without the knowledge of Christ will doubtless produce good that's what they're saying wrong DAW CMM would love to have you join their community of men for breakfast every first and third Friday of every month and Bible discussions and fellowship after the best breakfast in town meeting location is at their voracious poster First Christian Church in Kernersville, 1130 N. Main St. encouraged him a hard start at 7 o'clock on a hard stop at 8 o'clock. First time visitors eat for free. Join your host will party Roy Jones Junior, a black guy in a white guy of affordable chiropractic in High Point.

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We have all kinds side conversation really excavated something up, Hector pulled out his letter as well as I do without the gate we love and praise God's brother you, we love and yes we do so we were talking about this article from the Christian posts and statistics by George Barna in a lastly is that before break was that floss is wrong and you're right you're right because it goes on to say that eternal the eternal presence is determined. This is this is from an article now people. This is not what we believe in determined by one's personal means of choice there. There's that word again and that there is no absolute guide or growth for an individual, morally okay so that is that is a byproduct of the last 35 or 40 years. That is a byproduct in the result of less 35, or four years and I will roll it back even just in the last 30 years or 25 years and not just to forsake if you bear with me just a moment back when one of our former presidents, was accused of having an extramarital affair, and because of his classification of what sex was right or not classifying.

We saw Trent go off the chart. Within the middle school population. Those types of activities right. The adults know what we talked about her so the last 30 years, 25, 30 years is become the sole mentality because I do find it makes it either right or wrong because the authoritative word of God makes right and that's what that type of mentality has has manifested itself of less 3035 years essay. So if you have no standard then anything becomes a standard rice. Also, if I had if I have no guide to live by that truth and it it covers my entire life and how I should live in order to be effective for the kingdom then anything that I say or believe is truth to me or if you redefined as well.

Anything you would but if you want to broadcast about you got a falling slot.

These influences do fewer cortical social media if they define it but are common earlier for not researching and verifying they decides this person says this is okay despite my comment just a moment ago about what the president defined as not yes or no, having right at sea that determines a lot of what did people believe in these Instagram and Snapchat people and all this other stuff is the number of followers.

A person half so if if they have like half million or above followers lay saying well if I have million people are following this person Dan Kelly truth right I really want to listen to what they have to say. Which, again, that has become their standard and so now when you start falling away and you're wondering why am I becoming weak spiritually.

All of a sudden, why am I not like I used to be when I first came to Christ. On top of my questions now more ones who profess to be Christians. You know what what's happened to get me from the point that of where I was to where I am now will discover your external influences writing this because you start listening to the world the pulpit has started talking from a world perspective, not about the world but from a world perspective and has got you convinced that these things are now acceptable, but the word of God says they're not right.

Exactly. And so giving, giving heed to the spirit. These doctrines of of demons that first Corinthians running first Timothy four says is that a person speaks lies and hypocrisy.

So you you can't be perfect if you've broken the law of God and since God says that everyone needs Christ's in order to be born again. Then that has to be the standard and is the standard for all mankind. Again, this is what the doctrines teach the doctrines of demons teach that if I take away the standard, then you can make it whatever you want to be something that Satan did to Eve in the garden right did God really say you see, so he used the same tactic he used to say he's using the same tactics today. Did God really say what you just said, he may be, you heard it wrong. Maybe you you you just didn't understand. Truthfully, because he know that if you eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you will need him anymore see that that's the ideology that he was infusing Eve with in the course. She gave it to Adam in and then the rest is history and that's why we're here now, which is about place to be a very bad place to be so here he goes on to say that philosophy of life contradicts the fundamental basis of what may be the two most significant documents to the longevity and success of America. The Bible and the Constitution of the United States. These documents agree that this nation will only be healthy and fruitful. If it is populated by more people by abandoning our moral standard and tradition and replacing them with inclusive and conditional preferences where losing the foundation that have enabled the American America to succeed for more than two centuries, so we a person.

If we go back to what we talked about earlier say is a person generally morally good.

Can we say that most people are generally morally good. Well, how would you say that there's no moral baseline exactly. So if again if what's the standard for saying that making that statement. If a person is morally good. What's the standard by which you measure myself right how good you are morally or not good so I do measure myself. You measure yourself by your sentiments us a morally good that and so that's nobody's business but my own.

That's that's my mindset run exactly as follows Christ. No, it's actually her brothers and sisters in Christ business because were supposed to be setting example serving others right and that service doesn't necessarily mean that I'm telling my brother, my sister, all of what goes on in my household. But what it is is I there has to be some accountability because we are all part of the body of Christ, right, and we are all members of the body. In particular, according to the word of God so that leads us then to this question that if a person believes that they are moral, morally good, and there is no standard by which to base their morality on then anything they say and or do to justify their actions is good to them with us. The end justifies the means. Right statement there just applying their own walk of life try and not living by any guidelines or what we used to call your stick short amount measure myself against what God is told measurements of his word and CNN again in first Timothy chapter 4 verse two units at speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron see a person who is deceived or who is a false teacher when when we talk about something being seared with a hot iron. Think about where I don't what you will you work in the military but but in the military seen guys get hurt and they would have like a vein or artery that would get torn and so the medic would run over there and say soldier. We need to cauterize this or you going to die and so what they do is they get something hot and a senior that that's right, they cease seal that wound up to stop her from bleeding.

So the false teachers and prophets, their conscience has been seared just like that won't so it you they have been desensitized as the world looking for so they have been desensitized to any and every other thing that's good that comes from God. So here they are now justifying whatever actions they are and they're not going to listen to anybody else in reference to what they have to say because their conscience has been seared and that's what the word of God is saying here so if you been seared you have no sensitivity to anything that would be good to help you spiritually. So what does the Bible say was God tells about turn away from him. Eventually he's going to do what legume on the go or reprobate, right, which means you no longer recognize right that's right that's that's Romans chapter 1 into that's right you you will be you will be of a reprobate mind and that's what the word reprobate means reprobate means that God has basically turns you over to your own mischievous nest your own sin your own deception because in your mind you understand right and wrong again. Appealing to the conscience seared conscience is telling J but if the conscience is been seared then you have a great right there you have it you not you, not letting anything, so hence the 58% of the followers of Christ: quote don't think this is the authoritative word of God, the Bible, so drawing parallel with the been turned over to reprobate mind because of turned away from God or not following God. How would they know. Hence the services it's okay to not have the authoritative word I try to visit there myself to folks we know that is not the case.

Not it is the authoritative word addresses book of life for us to say our living in this lighthearted line you praise God and will want to tell her to come home.

Well all you have to do is just confess that you are sinners believe that Jesus Christ came to the Virgin Mary, died on the cross was shed his blood for you and then give your life to Jesus Christ.

Tell ask him to come into your heart and make you a new creature and you will become a citizen of the kingdom of God and man will see you on the other side a man so much for doing a show. It's been great two weeks is not bad look for to join you next week with Brendan top was the people get excited over God because God is the only only one who is able to do for you what you can do for yourself. As we wrap up today show.

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