Share This Episode
Matt Slick Live! Matt Slick Logo

Matt Slick Live

Matt Slick Live! / Matt Slick
The Truth Network Radio
October 7, 2022 9:02 pm

Matt Slick Live

Matt Slick Live! / Matt Slick

On-Demand NEW!

This broadcaster has 846 show archives available on-demand.

Broadcaster's Links

Keep up-to-date with this broadcaster on social media and their website.

October 7, 2022 9:02 pm

Open calls, questions, and discussion with Matt Slick LIVE in the studio. Topics include---1- Could you explain Revelation 22-17 from a Calvinist perspective---2- Is Doug Wilson violating 1 Timothy 3-7 since the outside community in Moscow ID thinks poorly of him---3- What does it mean that have the mind of Christ or the Spirit of God in us---4- How do you defend limited atonement---5- Doesn't Deborah prove that women can be elders-


The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. Why is the founder and president of apologetics and research what is found alive you have questions about Bible doctrine. 722. Mr. Neff would love your okay today. One of the busiest days I've had all year and I just hit the ground running and literally show food down my face and I get the radio. So here we are to teach Bible study tonight. I go to do some tax stuff tonight I go to get rid of the sermon for this week.

It's a lot which I could work while I was driving, driving tomorrow but hey, just how it is. We have five lines if you want to give me a call 877-207-2276. By the way, tomorrow I'm to be not I will not be an original like tomorrow look Wayne, you can fill in the filling in on Monday as well because some driving down to Salt Lake and Québec. On Monday I can make it back for the radio show. But I want to rush I don't have any pressure so once you have looked to the show and look just great and he's been writing a lot of good stuff on the karmic website doing with you should dealing with the issue of the foot evolution intelligent design and things like that. He does good work and so let's see for the lines 877-207-2276 this Sunday I'll be down in Provo preaching at church on city on the hill city on the hill is what is right or sit in the hill. 11 o'clock is when the service starts. You can look it up on the web city on the hill of Provo and also let's see, where is Utah UT L. M.RG because you taught lighthouse ministry that's in Salt Lake City and if you are interested you to be there with Bill McKeever this Saturday, two days from now ready to be there from 1 to 415 Hyundai disbanding the store and if you go to UT LM Utah lighthouse ministry that Connie could check up anyway. If the address is 1358 SW. Temple St. 7 1350 itself is not too far from the actually good I think. Get a good Army throw up baseball from the headquarters to the baseball stadium right there at 1300 S. and West. So there you go. Lots of going on. Most of going on, by the bookstore to say hi. Be nice to see people who listen on the radio's say hi to Bill and say hi to me and or just come in to get stuff where you want to do is to be busy.

Good to be this and got so much going on alright so let's get to see Tyler from North Carolina.

Tyler welcome you on here all right hanging in there and we found a body afraid whoever will make him independent free will and a paradigm and salvation and the cabinets myself.

I don't think they actually know that that comes from a hand, not Scripture, but I think the candidate based on Revelation 22 7050 and maybe take it apart from me. Cabinets perspective it's easy. First of all, logically speaking, we Calvinists believe, and whosoever will, whoever will believe we don't have a problem with that. That is not an issue in what we do when I do that I sent people said Wheatley agree. Whoever believes will be saved. Whoever and what they do is a symbol that means then that the unbeliever has the free will. Ability just of himself to build a belief in Satan showing that in Scripture look at me like you need it though, I think.

Show me Scripture because the Bible says the unbeliever cannot receive the things of God for the foolishness to him first contents 214 and the slave of Cinema 614 220 is by nature child of wrath. Ephesians 23 that he doesn't do any good to leave and seek for God. Romans 310, 11, 12, five, six, in light of what the Scripture says about you tell me what your position is and how it's in the Scriptures, will whosoever.

Okay, let's go over again because the Bible says these things. The Bible says that the man is deathly sick and wicked, his heart full of evil.

Isaiah 64 six if you were dead in trespasses and sins, we are by nature children of wrath, etc. etc. etc. so how's that possible because if your view is correct.

If your view is correct. That is just up to their free will, then why does God have to grant that the belief clippings 129 why she is dating Genevieve inflation with. However, in John 38 automatic reading in free will write an essay that John 665 is a killer verse because of salt free will and why does Jesus say you can't come to me this is been granted to you from the father. John 665. That's a devastating first unit is and when you go to John 316. That's a famous verse right for God's will the world. Whoever believes it does not say whoever in the Greek the word whoever is the Greek word hosts Dennis is no mega Sigma hosts.

But what it says here is a poss hop the stool.

That's all the believing one literally says so only begotten son, that all the believing one in him shall not perish so that I could do with people is is is you know I'm telling you the stuff quickly, but you know you know a lot of this thing is. And this is for Buddy's listing. Where does it say that we just have a free will ability to simply choose Christ was an unbeliever who is a slave of sin, a hater of God who doesn't do any good doesn't seek for God cannot receive spiritual things. His heart is desperately wicked and deceitful. How does he just of the believing God is right. If you think overwhelmingly you all on that on that Trident could take a random phrase out of the book of Revelation out of contact or something like that in a pretty fickle defendant special and Paul Roman that is not he who will or even run to even speak directly to the will of man, as well as the action of either of those, or any account that's right. So now when we look at all. Revelation 2217 the Spirit and the bride say, come. And let the one who hears say, let the one who is thirsty, let the one who wishes to take the water of life without cost. There's no challenge to reformed theology whatsoever. There none at all going.

When Wendy comes from a ham not directly from Scripture think that that's probably probably the first on that. Not a very cogent argument. I would agree recording 11 will make on the father. You understand something, this is my opinion the Christian church is only as biblical as its biblical and what happens is over the years, sentimentality and easy theological assumptions are allowed to creep in John 316 is a great whosoever would believe that, therefore, means that it's up to the individual's free will in their sinful state of the reading, a great deal into the text and they don't realize that they're not looking at the whole of Scripture and essentially this is my opinion with her doing is demoting God and exalting man when you read Romans 992, 23, it clearly clearly says it's not up to man, but to God, who wills and it specifically says show this to them. They have a conniption fit or they say this just your interpretation and they don't look at the text and the reason is, in my opinion, is because they follow the blonde hair blue like location server Jesus stress in woman's night dressed up in a woman asking permission for you and your wisdom to let a man if that's the case then why does it have to be that God grants. We believe it's 129 or grants us repentance second Timmy 225 or were never born again, not of our own will.

John 113, or as many as had been appointed to eternal life. Acts 1348 were caused to be born again. First Peter one, three, or you cannot come to be listed. Father granted to you. John 665. If this ultimatum of free will and human level is in the sinful state is so true then why are those other verses there that say that God has to grant it to you. It was just up your free will. Furthermore, here's another thing NSA I ask. I ask look you pray and ask God to change the heart of people to believe the single yes I said all their legal good reformed theology because why would you do that if it's just up to their free will. Why would you be concerned about anything because just the free will. Why pray just have the gospel given to them. It's up to them right. So if you ask God to influence them in your admitting they need help they can't get on the wrong day. I find it ironic the novelist door knocking at the inspiration that inspired up talking to church is not talking to vanity universally, but the church specifically but in some weird way it gets inflated to me talking to everyone, but yet I appreciate Matt always say that I never in my wildest dreams wanted to become a Calvinist, and it is something your flesh just absolutely hate and that and I think that the good thing I think the good thing when the truth of God's word rub your flesh the wrong way and keep she keeps you in line for payment. Appreciate your ministry that the last waiver. Thank you, but he appreciated think there's all right that's Tyler from North Carolina.

We have four lines going to be call 877-207-2276 Alex from Florida. Here you are flipper fins on their have a good time.

You know me, I'm just throwing it in the floodwater.

You know I was going to say that we need to do out there is just take a whole bunch of like vitamin C and gallons of it is buckets of it with the baking soda. Support the water around you and just it'll clean everything was looking the house. Why God would probably be the one we got admit a lot when I lay are you okay I mean how it has a working to hurt hurricane down even hit yet so I went got pretty bad about that in all our land are currently 75 mile an hour where and nine not a whole tree in our backyard.

Pray the Lord's house went straight in a line in our backyard from the neighbor.

Well, yeah, and there's still flooding in our neighborhood, but man, my 20.

My wife is yeah I was praying you like that downplaying the earth in my life that I was praying to God like something happens but don't have standing still. Alex realizes how. That was my wife Brett well okay is on all right hey folks to open lines 877-207-2276 McCauley) why call 77077 back to the show portal outlook on their Mike what popular evangelical figure right now in the reformed circles, taking a lot of and I I have a question about myself and I wanted I want you to draw first Timothy three verse seven. What is your take on that verse invitation with those outside the church so that you will not fall and approached Mr. you get what what yeah yeah what's your take on.

I went to the Greek. I looked better translation.

I think it's pretty clear that if you have a church in your elder need to have a good reputation amongst the community.

They are living with. Would you agree you okay and then my second question is that when I talk to people. Dr. their thing while what about Paul and Romans, and people were attacking the Christian they were doing their Canadian like and blah blah blah. And no go back out with that boy that that for you, crossing point, no, not really understanding the problem or the issue so okay that approximate a good gesture yell yet the problem is like there's a popular evangelical figure that doesn't have a patient in his community and he's pretty close now for your… Look okay.

Though in Moscow, Idaho.

You know the community does not like, and I would say that the qualification elder.

It's pretty clear that you need to have a good reputation with those outside the church is an interesting point.

I here's the thing. For example, justifying anything, but I live here in Idaho and happens to be my neighborhood and so I would not say that.

Have a good dictation among my people in my neighborhood. So once similar missionary stop by guys house.

I was driving out. In the street rolled on the window as it is doing, you know, the Mormon scheme of the street and talked and 5678 people came out of their homes and surrounded my car and one woman said we know who you are. We don't want you here for him as her neck together so gentle and loving you hypocrites. It's is typical and yeah you go to Rexburg and see what happens when you open the church and how they stand out in front of the church with pots and pans and bang on service so Kaiser is everything so if you're in the midst of an environment where on unbelievers or warn against you, because they hate the truth then okay this a problem.

It was not a problem in this context for seven but if it's not the case where there's a bunch of problems that are raising because you're standing for the truth is these to be understood in the whole of Scripture because no process so that you will not fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. The reputation is so good with so you don't fall into that problem. So what would be about it in the context of the reputation outside the church that would be something that could lead to sin. I don't know what that means.

Okay well you know you're going to get right.

You the pastor you know there you have a pretty good reputation. You know I have asked how you're doing all of you well.

I can't check and answer the question because I haven't gone door to door in the pastor's neighborhoods knocking using what you think of him done so can't answer them. Okay yeah I think I got and I I think you know Paul people hated the truth that one thing like okay but you know what he actually an act. Forgot if you look up King Agrippa and asked where Paul start looking Agrippa King Agrippa actually commended and that yes is a difficult thing. In fact, because you brought this up home my neighborhood so to speak is really the Internet so like last night was on for two and half hours on clubhouse asking questions. I will spend time on discord and spend time metal reversal spend time in different venues having live conversations, voice conversations and when I worked on over the years a lot is being patient and being gentle, such that they don't have any reason to complain against me other than the logic Scripture is that they don't like that's different, and so it's a difficult thing to do and sometimes are still blowing get a little uppity with some people.

But that's very infrequent and so there are atheists. For example who hate my guts there atheists who I would succumb over the house has the keys of the house are to be gone for we shall see later inserted a wide range of people on the outside of the church. So what then is the context of outside the church. It would seem to be in your immediate neighborhood, but not necessarily because what about outside the church does not it just as those outside the word. The church is not in the Greek there and it seems to be so with the second part that you don't follow reproach and serve the devil that you are is as good as your reputation and vice versa seat seem to be something there. So you could have a reputation for being a good man but not liking what he's doing. Like Doug Wilson on the fitting doubles, but I'm sick that he's going enter good Bible studies there there doing a lot of so I have connections with the fun of a guy who goes there I could ask questions. I could probably get an audience with Doug and asked questions I want to drive up or something wasn't going to let the of the church is going to be the only Michigan hate what he does when he fights against abortion fights against the woke mentality and stupidity to the I would be good reputation, but what about the issue of Izzy gentle is a kind is he long-suffering with. They said yes he is going to like the other part of this is difficult thing to get into and analyze because of different aspects of your more questions that you you are online in their note, 20, 30 years of you having a bad litigation when you think you are disqualified because it is true. I've been reputation on.

It's also true in the good reputation of someone we do know you can find. I see the people you look my name up on Google. Most of what you find is not true. I see it as a joke, but there are people that one guy did a five hour video why Matt slick is not a Christian, five hours okay that is what I've had it from every angle, but most of them in every respect, mostly as mentors written okay. I got blasé folks. The open lines 720-7276 mass Y call 77077 Julie from North Carolina. Welcome your sure is I can know a lot about the Bible. I don't think the question on one color like having the spirit of God in them didn't go into that very well narrowed down what sure you would think it is is his thinking his attitude, his desires that he is revealed in the word of God and his disciple and teaching the disciples and how they carried it out because you thought about it and its research on it and so to say we have the mind of Christ is to say, I think it was within reason to say that it is including the issue of his desires and will for us for the unbelievers for people to witness how we are to behave, how we are to love and show patience and things like that I think was going on. Love they neighbor as myself is the cornerstone of the eighth and we should be love the Lord with all your heart, soul, mind and strength.

Because God should be the ultimate standard in the ultimate goal in the first and greatest commandment to love God and the second one is to love your neighbor as yourself will I find I thinking. Of God.

The yoke is easy with hearted is is doing when I'm not doing it, and heart that the world but not Internet back that they well, but great about God call in the church really recalls the church we call it work and think like that pastors and elders on Elder Nestor understand your question is no, what your question, what my question is how will that be you and an elderly woman reading the Bible way I do and looking at it and a lot we let women which you question what was your question okay you need to.

Can you just asked me a specific question answer question any circling of the different topics so what's the question you wanted okay are you trying to find Evelyn pastors and elders reading article and when I'm making a profit counsel abandon got where ever I want word work to get you to my commanded people of faith like David the field Temple and done okay. I'm asking you to give me a question please give me a question is how to move on. Okay? You haven't got got got all women you do work on earth are you trying to justify women pastors and elders are you trying just to get.

I'm asking you a question are you trying to justify and support the idea that women can be pastors and elders. That's what I'm asking is that what you're trying to say will just move along because she's not answering and she's beating around the bush. A whole bunch and to go to Deborah as a judge in Israel, not an elder or pastor in the church doesn't apply to the New Testament context because it's a different category. Different thickness could vary from, I will moment we lost.

It was good question Yvonne John 35 would love to spoken about that next long as Wayton is norm from North Carolina norm welcome here in Matt hi we got so my question or and when I do my Christian friend. All of them I get would be four you problem that they end up having limited no you explain that they have a problem. Well, the problem is probably limited atonement thoroughly explained it so so with request I would do.

I mean how would you argue with somebody that said no.

When Christ died died for the entire world. Then man Beverly and I think I would they know he died just asked him did he die for everybody relived. Yes.

Did he pay for every sin relived the say yes to first Samuel 314 first Samuel 314 behold or ceased.

God sent God speaking. Therefore, I've sworn the house of Eli that the iniquity of Eli's house shall not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever. So the iniquity of Eli's house will not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever so did Jesus sacrifice for their sins. No. And I've had them said yes he did okay. This delivers again and this is where I get into repetitive loop will read the same thing over and over and also the first table 314. See the address because I want to remember the first says that the iniquity of Eli's house will not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever. And so Alaska is a sacrifice of Christ included in the sacrifice or offering forever yes and try to go over this for 10, 15, 20 minutes with them sometime before they finally stop submitting the scriptures to their understanding this and reversing it. That's what I'll do is one of the ways to do this is a look is what it says you're just denying what it says. I've shown this to people that stumped and I've had people say well I don't care what it says okay you you believe everyone would on our conversation.

That's one thing that I think is sin is a legal debt first entry for sin is a transgression of the law to give you something here people to listen because this is logic with Scripture right out of the word of God. Sin is breaking the law of God.

First John 34.

Sin is a legal debt because Jesus is our father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, and kingdom come. In Matthew 612 we should forgive us our debts. In Luke 11 for the parallels and forgive us our sins. So Jesus equates sin with legal debt sins were Marty and that is will freely and their different words, Jesus uses two different words to describe sin is legal debt. Why, because breaking the law of God. Alaska are you with me so for the civil yes okay so I had a question for you see, I have an illustration called coma is just illustration is a coma and he goes to the bank on the first Monday of every month, and he paid his mortgage.

He likes that the process he likes doing and to be doing for years and they norm at the bank and everything and one day on the way there he gets in a car accident and is in a coma for a month to his monthly payment and he wakes up and miraculous recovery. But during this time while he's in the hospital a philanthropist goes and pays off his debt is legal debts paid. Here's a question is is legal debt actually paid. Yes.

Can this coma man be held responsible for the debt that's Artie been paid for no because it's paid for and Elsik first this to say what if he doesn't accept it as it's irrelevant whether he accepted. He wakes up to go to the bank. I can pay my debt. It's Artie been paid.

The guy said you want, except that is my thousand dollar check pay the mortgage, the bank can't take it because the debt has been paid. It's gone is not made effective by what we do is made effective at what Jesus did, we give them the break will show you and I'll prove it to you from Scripture, why call 77077 but also will be the Utah lighthouse ministry on Saturday from 1 to 4 with Bill McKeever remove the cavers and is a world-class expert on Mormonism works ever known. And with this entertainer and so I'll be there with him at Utah lighthouse ministry and that so off West Temple Southwest Temple just across the street and down a little bit across the street from the baseball stadium will be there Saturday 1 to 5.

On a rescue back on your with norm regular. I'm here right one more verse that is the absolute killer verse in its Colossians 214 horses talk about Jesus having canceled out the certificate of debt. The certificate of debt is a single record care microphone. It means a hand handwritten. I know you of legal indebtedness. The certificate of death to send member sin is breaking the law of God and Jesus equated sin with legal debt and Jesus bore our sins in his body on the cross. It means our sin was imputed to him. He bore our sin is by legality are ours legally became hands were transferred to them just as his righteousness legally becomes ours which is called justification and dinette set of five living 395.

Romans 51, but the certificate of debt is the handwritten ideal view of legal indebtedness is breaking the law if your sin debt which is consisting of decreased business decrees that thou shalt not's. And thou shalt turn against us.

We broken those laws. Hence, we have a sin that so having canceled out the certificate of debt, consisting of the crease against us, which was also to us is taken out of the way, having nailed to the cross and will do it all site where was the sin debt canceled and that is not when you believe it's not when you get baptized. It's when Jesus died, cross out. That's what set right.

They will very well know you know Christ died for everybody not really believe that it apply strong see the death that's canceled the sin that is not applied when you believe justification to register God is applied, would you believe people don't get the difference. The sin debt is canceled at the cross you're not justified until you believe having therefore been justified by faith.

Romans 512, the one who does not work but believes his faith is credited as righteousness.

Justification is a crediting of righteousness the righteousness of the Lord God through Christ is imputed to us.

That's Romans as grief looking 39 maybe righteousness is not our own people make the mistake of thinking that the work of Christ depends on our faithfulness. It does not work of Christ depends on the work of Christ. The effectiveness of the truth of Christ work depends on his work, not ours. His faithfulness, not ours, and people make the mistake of adding their own faithfulness to the work of Christ that then makes it valid to them. No, it's not the case. He removed the sin debt and canceled at the cross. We are justified really believe these are two separate things and they have to understand, Colossians 214 of the descendents canceled as we were born saved because you is not aspect called and now the not yet born. We are live for Christ.

It was his now but our not yet and yet he bore our sins in the future. The now and the not yet is perfectly exemplified right there experiment quite a bit more but he canceled the sin debt.

I asked people who do cancel it for this everybody will then can you go to hell for a sin debt that doesn't exist anymore like I do believe it doesn't matter if you believe or not it doesn't exist reasonably listen to me again if it's not there. If it's canceled. Can you go to hell for what doesn't exist and that the stock yeah I think it definitely yeah I got the many wrong approach for that meal will first Samuel 314 Pi Cir. 3.1415 314 first Daniel three so that's yeah that'll negate that clusters issue blast with the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in this age of Dacia, Matthew 1222 232 so those are the issues people have to stop trying to think that Jesus is the blonde haired like a Cajun surfer dude dressing room is nightgown and it's up to you in your wisdom to believe and that he loves everybody so much that he's begging you to come in and that he died for everybody and canceled us and for everybody. Now just up to you. That's not biblical theology is heresy, but it's what's taught in most right yet you know that you didn't ever evangelical Debbie love everybody all you love everybody well okay about Pharaoh (strength in his home 55, some 11 five he hates all who do an iniquity and is enmity with between God and in people's afflicted people losing their taught partial biblical theology and what I did not like seriously. When I became performed before the process.

I didn't like what people tell me that there was that how it works. Jesus is obvious the Caucasian, and he also has a really good complexion and nice in a semi-blonde hair and he you know here is really nice and nicely and he stuck it up.

Rudy eats up to you and your wisdom.

This is what I was taught early and people saying he thought about this answer that I remember every inch of the way going like that I can see I believe the Scriptures was what it says. That's what it says. That's what it says.

I gradually moved into what it says if you cancel descendent of the cross and if it's canceled everybody. Nobody can go to hell and will say, well, you gotta believe belief is a command of God believe in God believe also in me.

John 14 one Jesus and annexes 20 you have no other gods before God, the 10 Commandments you supposed to believe in God is. It's a long requirement believe in him, and yet people say well that's the one sin that isn't paid for by Jesus just this stuff they make stuff up and you know if they would believe in the sovereignty of God and then an inmate. They do this to ask God to change the hearts of people away the lives of their free will why that's got a chain that violated every well is and they don't get it. To answer this right so mom and the Colts get this all Colts all false religions deny that God is a sovereign King who elects who he desires for salvation. Every one of them denies it, everyone could because the way of of of mankind is to compromise the word of God to not submit to the incident majesty, holiness and work of God who has brought all things into existence, either directly or indirectly, that all things work.

After the counsel of his will, which is why he says as many as have been appointed to eternal life.

They believe because they were appointed, acts 1348 that he chose us in him before the foundation of the world. Ephesians 14 this is the work of God.

But somehow someway were able to pray through Christ and asked God to save more and I know how it all works but I know this the more I pray, the more I preached.

Apparently, the more God's calling above my pay grade. You know how it works. But this is what the Scripture says is a word of some new teachers were to got I must submit to what it says and I want to say this, the people listening. If you don't like what I'm saying to check it out in Scripture.

The supreme things right there. If you don't listen McDonald care at the don't listen. Go find someone will tickle your ears, but this is what the word of God says, I say to people read the word and believe the word change your heart change your mind as the word of God shapes if that's possible to be okay. Amen very much, Matt. Remember RIS hey, let's get back to Julie because we lost her. Julie welcome around here yet. Hi yeah talk about women in the Bible and God will call and how many women the Bible do it well and you what your question question question hurting women and the backlight denied them to follow God's will and plan their life really I don't deny them fully God's will and I never tooth. I encouraged him to do that they think they can hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on the canopy pastors and elders because the Bible says is not the position as it is a true man is true. Yes it is true yes it is true, but thinking and hold on quiet quiet quiet. I have to correct you will have a few minutes and you're not being humble before God's word. The word of God says in first Timothy 212 and 13, Paul says I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over man but remained silent for Adam was first created. This is the will of of Paul the apostle and he says in the next chapter and verse 315 in first Timothy 315.

He's giving instruction to the household of God, so he's saying a woman is not to be in position of authority over man in the church and furthermore, when you go to first Timothy chapter 3 it talks about the elder because the and the bishop and the elders of pastoral pastors and elder automatically go to first Timothy 517 give double honor to the elders, especially those who work hard, preaching the preacher pastor is an elder. The Bible says the elder is to be on their me off. Good night guys are honoring this when I got a man of one woman, a woman cannot be an elder because she can't be a man and one woman. It's very simple. Julie did you hear what I said I only have out how it how can a woman, how can a woman become an elder. If the requirement for an elder to be a man of one wife. How could she do that well well it was Deborah an elder in the church was Deborah an elder and a charge was asking was I asked you was she an elder in the church. Let me know. No Julie, this is not Julie Julie Julie, how can a woman be an elder. When the Bible says the elder has to be male. One guy remember one guy just one guy supposed guy folks looking to tell you this is how heresies about this is subjecting the word of God to your feelings or desires and what society says this is the bedrock of apostasy. I tell you what it says. I read what it says she's not interested in what the word of God actually says she has an agenda. Unfortunately, it's not a good one then you step up and do it right in the church. Women you to understand and are called to this position, not females. I will debate anybody on it publicly, your church, and will have a public debate on this Bible support women pastors and elders. All right, I'll be back on the radio on Tuesday I'll be at Utah lighthouse ministry on Saturday with Bill McKibben want to come by and say hi preaching on Sunday in Provo church city on the hill church Sunday. Got lots of money. Hope you have a great weekend and that you look a hard time on Friday.

Bless you and him another program powered by the Truth Network

Get The Truth Mobile App and Listen to your Favorite Station Anytime