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The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network mats like why is the founder and president of apologetics is found online for you have questions of our Bible doctrines maps what why branches called in responding to your questions at 877207276 here's Matt slick everybody. Welcome to the show, which may match look, if you want to give me a call is dial 877-207-2276 and we can blab we could talk deals pretty easy. If you want to watch the show. Do so. Go to Karma.org see your room.orgy and on the right-hand side of the homepage you'll find something you'll find we can eat like a link to the show and of just doing a little adjusting the lighting right now.
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Go to Romans and overcharging weren't Romans one, verse 18. Today, tonight, and all my notes for my notes. So today through verse 24 was if you were to go to car. Look at the notes and also a link to download for word you can use some teach about this letter with them if you want, and though going down through verse 23 tonight.
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I don't think Louisiana. Welcome your mojo okay X out okay couple weeks ago when I called yeah the resolution on the way that the new system is on the computer. I can't see all the letters I see the top half of letters. So it's a resolution about mojo. Mark my name is Joe I live in Louisiana I quit before the mind of Christ member we went in first Corinthians 16. Yes yes oh and caring yes and I think we both agree that people that have been filled with the Holy Spirit back to God and my pride is that all well that would be worked out means you on the right track switch question on the question yet, but it was the people about cry work cry and thought right side is simply the Hebrew Christ is so is Greek sickly yellow machine and stuff you look neat will lead to one of the word refer well it's not correct.
Jesus is the Christ. He's God in flesh so therefore it refers to God in that way now. Yeah right was the prophet Moses spoke of God. Okay, yes you are on that very thing where you don't know about raising up the prophet.
I will write the prophet. Yes, I'm out there, yes you yes I got you I got you in yes that's I do 90 1850 yes I'm with you so what's the point. The latter question will all Peter and the other you know work with them. And they began the word of God. Yeah, you have a question question because you're going all over the place.
It is as though you want to teach. I want to know if you have a question, I will know how people got God because the Bible says that Jesus is God.
John 11 in verse 14.
In the beginning was the word the word was with God and the Word was God. Verse 14 the Word became flesh and dwelt on us. He's called God and he was 18 were God the father speaking sent by the throat of the son he says thy throne of God is forever and ever. John and John 2520 John 2028 doubting Thomas says to Jesus, have just right shows the Lord of me and the God of me. Jesus says in John 858, before Abraham was, I am they want to kill him for claiming the divine title for himself in first Corinthians 1 to Paul the apostle says that one calls upon the name of the Lord Jesus. The phrase call upon the Lord is the Greek equivalent of the Old Testament phrase, pumping of Yahweh. That's his name. The name of God is applied to Jesus. Jesus is God going to is called the Granville Sharp rule Titus 213 great God and Savior Jesus. Jesus is God in flesh or looked at me like he called upon the name of know we call upon the Lord Jesus right Jesus prayed to the fathers of Dr. the Trinity, the father son and Holy Spirit. Three distinct simultaneous persons in the Godhead, the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and he was made on the log license for for for little while more than the Angels.
Hebrews 29 so therefore under the law he would pray to God the father does not mean he is not divine yes two distinct natures a divine nature and human nature. This is called the hypostatic union. Jesus Christ is God.
I was what you operate the God Jesus is God in flesh, she could pretty Jesus you bring the father for the Holy Spirit and just pray to God. Okay, if you deny that he's got a plus.
You can't be saved cannot be a Christian.
Not getting Jesus in John 824. Unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sin. Jesus sets now in exit 314 and 15 Moses said to God, what's your name, and God says to Moses, I am that I am less usual state of the sons of Israel. I am has sent me to you. And Jesus says unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins or Otto. Gabriel was sent by God to a girl about to be 90 okay let's try this again. I don't know what you're getting. I don't know what relevance that has Jesus has to natures both divine and human. Okay, that's what the Bible teaches anybody who denies that ultimately is a spirit of the antichrist came okay will thank you for thank you for your time and turn that into the program and you if you affirm that Jesus is God in flesh and you deny it, but I think you know what he wasn't going to develop just the son of God. In John 518, he was calling God his own father, making himself equal to God: God is the God I called about likely: God know it says with this is what the context was of Jesus. Jesus was calling God his own father, making himself equal to God. As John 518 because in the context of who and what Jesus was teaching and had been teaching about himself.
Okay Randall I will probably yeah level with what you know when you break really the way out there law yes you do, you pray to Matthew six, Luke 11, here's the thing in the Psalm 116 for this. If it says that I called upon the name of Yahweh, oh Yahweh, I beseech you save my life to call upon the name of Yahweh is to pray to Yahweh when the Greek when the Jews translated the Old Testament into Greek and the Septuagint.
They took that phrase. They translated it as call upon the name of the Lord. The phrase call upon the name of the Lord in the Greek Old Testament means to pray to worship and adore God. That phrase is used by Paul the apostle reference to Jesus call upon the name of the Lord Jesus Bible teaching you need to affirm with the Bible says if you deny that Jesus is God in flesh cannot be saved. You are not a Christian you cannot go to heaven you will go to hell with limited regular football you on another program I write. Have you ever studied the Jehovah's Witnesses know I have good it's occult. Have you ever studied with Unitarians. I am familiar with the unit.
But I know that what going unit. Until about seven years ago.
Yes, standing with no lot after that before I ever met one of the okay so Rob I've been gripped her for about 40 years and then you have failed to understand the Scriptures properly that you know everything the world. But they know not everything is debatable, skews me. Not everything is debatable. 2+2 is for what he wanted to believe it or not.
The truth is, the Bible says that Jesus Christ is God in flesh, but of the son he says thy throne of God is forever and never Hebrews 18 God the father calls the sun God.
This is Bible teaches you have a lighter but you have failed to understand the word of God properly do not know what it actually teaches. I believe Gabriel told Mary that the Lord is going with you first. Great-grandfather David and Greenham would have knowing we agree. And Jesus also is God in flesh.
Also, not instead of, in addition to Jesus has three offices profit priest and king.
The three offices of Christ, you need to read John chapter 8, you need to actually what I would do if I were you go to my website and read the articles on Jesus you go to karma type out is Jesus God and he'll give you the verses will give you everything you study it. If you deny he's got in flesh then you will be down.
That's just reality. Okay. All right. Calling allies okay already folks River lines 877-207-2277 mass Y call 770727. Here is Matt's leg right and welcome back to the show to let you know that we stay on the error by your support. If you are so kind as to consider supporting us. Please go to conduct work/donate. We ask you any amount you want to give you can put in any amounts we have different suggestions and stuff like that and I would ask that you would consider supporting us don't need very much.
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We appreciate what you do. Your one of the few teachers or people that I've met that do not give their opinion but are very strict with interpretation of the word and and I didn't really appreciate that. So it you clear up a lot of nonsense when I appreciated thanks sound faithful to the word of God. It says not when I say that's the well, that's that that's why I'm calling it one of the few people I trust when it comes to handling the word. It's horrifying how many people give their opinions and I don't want their opinion. I did, I want to be caught the truth but anyhow I'm I just started studying basic Greek grammar to help me understand the New Testament better. I'm an artist very very new to this and I just made a few little notes here about the aortic passive subjunctive and if errors I'm sorry you think it and if I'm wrong about the little notes I made, which will this take me about 10 seconds to read.
Then you can correct me on that. If I'm not understanding correctly. But that my notes say if the subjunctive mood is used in a purpose or result clause in the action should not be thought of as a possibility, but should be viewed as a definite outcome that will happen as a result of another stated action. Is that correct thing to stand. Yes, certain constructions in the subjunctive mood ring the necessity not just a possibility. Yes, and it's been a while, but yes those are that's definitely there with with it and if you go to varying grammars I give you some grammars go through, they'll talk about that negative examples, okay. Thank you.
Know I just started doing that.
Just trying to get my thoughts straight so do I have time for a quick reference to the strict Scripture. Okay I want to commit your time, but so strong G 4982 is in first Corinthians 55 in it that Eric passive subjunctive so this then in my understanding is not expressing a possibility, but what I just previously spoke that a positive result of him being handed over to Satan that his will be saved in the day of the Lord.
What 55. Sorry if I'm talking too quickly on to smooth things around the screen because I have books open grammars I decided… Want to sink the instructions flesh so that his spirit may be saved right.
It's a conditioned necessity is. Yes that's right okay yeah they were tasered Greek.
Okay, I had 4 1/2 years of college and seminary and it it it it's when you learn Greek, you almost have to let another language along with Greek you have to learn the tools of learning Greek subjunctive is what mood is aorist passive, active voice, you have to learn about conjugation parsing your skill and all of it because you have to, because that's how the books talk. That's what they do they teach it.
So what you're doing is very radical and we doing it is just begin that process.
I would recommend and what you do is get a note taking system word or in the cloud where we want to do where you find that particular thing like the subjunctive mood and then different usage usages of it that have slightly different meanings. According to the construction because this is what it takes with and exams we had known these things and be able to give examples, translations and things like this was.
It was tough but was double so it is unclear in my own brain. All my notes here. Most people are reading their good possibility, but my notes say you're not interpreted as a possibility, but because of the of the action of handing them over to Satan, the definite outcome is the result of spirit being saved on the day of the Lord is that the correct interpretation okay reading all of these people's opinion there like third. This is why I started to study Greek because people were giving their opinion but then when I delved deeper for quite a minute that really know what think is make an express possibility, but it can also express a definite outcome. As a result of an action.
I would've never known that mad had I not started embarking on my journey to learn Greek and I I realized I almost thought for me I have to really learn that because it is too many open interpretations that Greek closes the door. You know, yes, he taught me who may you know that negation, and even where double negation where it's impossible for the Lord to him. I bought your book where you credit impossible for the Lord to leave us but if you don't know Greek you you it's very hard to get that message from the English. Anyway I could talk of a God bless shall make up a a make a payment right now. Met goblet before you go, though, and thanks for supporting appreciated. Consider looking at Lenski Eliane SK. He was a Lutheran scholar Greek scholar and I enjoy a lot of what he has to say he'll often go into the Greek and bring out issues like that and so that you find to see if he has it tests its first sentence of verse first quickens what to write.
Some looking here at Lenski look at the wrong one can find it in my windows and all of the place so because he'll do stuff like this may be saved. Necessity the entrance on the seat that was one of think of it when it went next, studying something like this, just like you're doing looking universe are looking at the Greek and looking at the tents look at the mood to voice anyone. What is it mean because you can't just say for example that active voice means he's performing the action. It's all whatever means because it might be that active voice means something historical sense when it was acted upon different way. They have these Greek constructions and rules that gets me very and I'll tell you very annoying. It's like the as I got to say the Greeks invented Greek not because I used it to kill people in the future because there are a lot of rules and so I've learned a lot of things about the Greek and that thing you have actually said literally is one of the issues of studying the past correct writers dismiss every time but that's what is the case is just the stuff that okay thank you God bless hey we have really logical to get a call 877-207-2276 Matt Flynn why call 770-7276. Here is Matt's link 877-207-2276 was good to LW North Carolina. Welcome here. David and Matt, your you everyday. Learn from it about. But my question is around the understand the doctrine of election and that you have no problem with it, and questioned the ground that he had when I am – and with my friends who are more of an Armenian.
How do I in in discussing this topic and also believing that God's sovereignty unit had his learn to sacrifice himself for how to reconcile my theology will in discussion.
I believe my mind won't wrap around the links between the king. Mr. link between the two. What that the two yes ideologies are theology of the fact that Jesus had all but yet the more are elected to salvation summer will election is the teaching that God himself the father chose to give to the sun people. Ephesians 1 for he chose us in him before the foundation of the world. This is God's right and sovereign work and will to elect so he elected and certain people and the Bible is all over the place.
It talks about this right now, you're talking about that issue of night talk with that nature of the atonement right you died for all, what is it mean that correct it was me to die for them. Listening and I understand that that is the free gift that he offers to every born, long point of a he offers to everyone offers what I offered. The atonement is salvation and art. Okay, so we would sit agree that Christ is commanding everyone everywhere to repent. Act 1730 I here's the thing about atonement.
A lot of people don't get is atonement does not make something possible. It accomplishes so a propitiation. For example, three colossal months. Propitiation means the sacrifice that turns away wrath, it doesn't mean is made possible to be turned away.
It's accomplished it's done.
A lot of Christians don't understand this. Why Christians think that the work of Christ is dependent on my goodness, so that Jesus died on the cross bearing our sins and it only becomes effective. If I do something that means and what Christ did in of itself isn't sufficient to see the problems there so that friends I agree this work with us and we need to lay foundation down so it was read Colossians 213 and 14 when you were dead in your transgressions and the on circumcision of your flesh, he made you alive together with him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us and he's taken it out of the way, having nailed to the cross so Colossians 214 says he canceled out the certificate of debt. The word certificate of debt in Greek is one is one word carotid refund handwritten IOU of legal indebtedness. The previous verse he says it's is having the forgiveness of transgressions, verse 14, having certificate of debt. It's a sin that he canceled right okay don't ask you when is a canceled read the verse again as answers in the verse having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us but is taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
So when is a sin debt canceled it when he sacrificed sacrifice across great so that is not made effective. If we believe in correct it it already affected. That's right.
So what would what happens. We believe is not that the atonement is made active, it's that were justified the atonement as it occurs on the cross. 2000 years ago, he canceled sin and that there question and logically requires and canceled for the canceled for every individual who ever lived or not. For every individual who ever lived. If he canceled it for every individual who ever lived, and that would necessitate that God could not condemn them to hell because there's no sin attached to them.
It's gone. It's not the is not dependent on their action of believing to make it go away.
It's already done it's paid. So if you have a bill I pay your bill. Not even aware of it. Your awareness or not acceptance or not is irrelevant to whether or not the actuality of the debt is been finished and paid is not dependent on you receiving is dependent upon the one performing the action and what unfortunately happens in Christian churches today. They put the onus of accomplishment on themselves, not on Christ. So they have man centered theology not Christ centered theology with man centered theology comes a whole host of other problems and weakness in the church because man then becomes the center of righteousness and truth and measurement things like this, is that of Christ, and we follow every man is head of God the thoughts, but there's quite a few between it's connected. But this is the kind of thing that happens and so when you talk about this with someone but election God's chosen people because that's what the Bible says Ephesians 1 for he chose us in him before the foundation of the world would be holy and blameless says so Jesus as a threat. So Jesus came he says all the father gives me will come to me.
John 636. It doesn't say all who come to me. The father will then give to me, which is what most people think is the case, there man centered account where to meet my work then God giving to Jesus. Based on what I just I do. This is the opposite theology and it's being taught in churches all over the world unfortunately. Simple. Okay so that's there's some biblical theology and Christian pastors and elders to teach to the contrary of the state repent flat go-ahead okay well that is helpful. There I get to have been the understanding that near the atonement youth for everyone that understand what you're saying there that it or elect amount you primarily trials. Let me read you.
This is a set of 66% 314 right you ready for this is God talking.
Therefore, I've sworn to the house of Eli that the iniquities of Eli's house will not be atoned for sacrifice or offering forever so did Jesus atone for the sacrament for the sins of Eli's house in a repeated failure stand. No, not answering and did he atone for Judas Iscariot's betrayal did he take away that sin, because to die for someone soon is to pay the sin debt means he died for the sin of the weather here is whether to leave or not it is still eight that's right I got when I when I ask me that he died for our sins think that having thought through. Don't think these things through a diverse and it was. I don't know. And most people don't know what it means to go to church for years and don't know what is that tell you but pastors and teachers out there who'd aren't equipping them right is what we're getting from the pulpit. That's what I tell people I'm teaching Romans tonight. I tell people I warn them. I say if you go through the study of Romans and with me will take about a year. I said I two things will happen.
Your theology will will change and it'll be right based on Scripture.
That's one thing thing is you become less more disappointed with the preaching care right okay all right got lots all right hey recommend the last break Nick all of you to do is dial 87720726 Anthony from Virginia on the Trinity next man's leg. Why call 770-7276.
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Give an example. Time is past, present and future. The present is time, therefore the present is past present future. This is called the fallacy of equivocation were single word changes its meaning in the usage. When we say that Jesus is God saying is that he's the Trinity is the divine nature that were saying. So when Jesus is praying to his God. He's talking about God father is Jesus was made for a little while lower than the angels.
Hebrews 29 made on the log. Galatians 44 under the law he had to pray to God that we got the father. That's why since father glorify me with the glory I had with you before the foundation of the world.
John 17 five so that was going on there so that's what had to be careful. My father, your God, how can God have a God. That's where the confusion comes because how can God, Jesus, God have a God nice to talk to God's.
That's not how the word is to be used if he is divine. How can you have someone who is God above him and that's the right way to ask the question and Artie provide the answer day so I actually understand that Jesus is calling father God, anything that he is God, which is why did you not God okay because he, Jesus, God cannot have a being over him are superior to Jesus was made under the law. Galatians 44 he was cooperating with limitations of the command. Philippians 25 through eight may have a need to know God, excuse me, let me finish. Hebrews 29. These me for little while lower than the angels, I'm giving you the basis for the answer you with me. The condition of of the word under the law he would cooperate with limitations being a man makes for little while lower than the angels is a lesser position and he has two natures is divine and human and therefore we pray to someone he would call God. That's the father okay all right you know what you're saying is that in John a and hand claiming to be God. But then later on, saying that he had a God okay does he say he has a God boy called the father, my God, so it would that like it is my God and your God deeply held on the same level as the other people bearing thing. We both have the same God that God cannot have a God. God cannot God see when you say that your Mr. Texas a God means a single God. Another God to God's.
That's not what the argument is the answer. So you're not hearing what I'm telling you not listening, you understand the thinking of the computing people there when you said that God the father is God. Do you understand the doctor.
The Trinity is do you understand Dr. yet and it Trinity, the Trinity, the Trinity is that the father and Christ and the Holy Spirit are all persons of the same God.
Neither one of God of the other ones are all coequal with other thing you added that ignoring the condition of the incarnation of the work so you set yourself up for contradiction is unnecessary. So the doctor Trinity three distinct simultaneous cultural persons.
The word was with God and the Word became flesh right.
The word was God right. That's what it says yes. So that means Jesus is God in flesh right now and fairly so. The Bible says in the beginning was the word word was with God and the Word was God and the Word became flesh does that say that God became flesh.
Well, you probably heard of the Proverbs 8 argument. I'm guessing that's that's wisdom it's in the feminine flight here so yeah but well done. I asked you a question.
I'm going to think logically, if a equals B and B equals C than does a equals C say it again. Okay, it is called the law proper inference if the word is God and the word becomes flesh is Jesus. Then Jesus is God. That's the law. Proper inference if the word is God.
The word becomes flesh. This Jesus that Jesus is God okay you accept or deny that logic. Yeah, there are there are interpretation of that word, though I asked you questioning the question you accept or deny that logic was right. The logic you have to understand the content and let her, I asked you a question.
Do you accept or do you deny the logic yeah that is stated in your logic is clear by okay so I think not that I second the me ask you another question. Do you accept or deny that logic accept or deny which is only that verse yet by what be will move along okay with the Mulan colors waiting now folks I asked the exact same question and he doesn't answer the question. This is nothing but simple logic.
We move on after he says yes I understand the logic agree. The logic is true, then we can move on and do with universes, but notice what is not doing is not he's not affirming what the Scripture says, because he's trying to set Scripture give Scripture I think thousands of conversations like this with people and we just don't get anywhere if you can answer simple question I've asked the same question 345 times it just is not conducive so he needs understand what to call again, what is due is actually answer the question and then once a questions answered that we can move on to do that conversation, let's get to Scott from North Carolina, Scott called on time.
In my quest. About your focus. I have been 25 and died along with a coworker who I knew was a Jehovah's Witness and had a very lengthy conversation, and the court, the Trinity, they don't believe God honoring Burke passages in the Bible and I'm been listening going some great work but here is what I didn't know how to check the Parking yourself on the hundred and 40 S. and that when they die.
Their souls were not from their body and there's only an only crime need you say what's that all about me.
If you know Christians believe that it makes, and you believe in Christ and you will go and so that's what I did know how to €44,000.
With this theology is basically the hundred 40,000 with only one to Jesus for the sin nothing and redeem and everybody else has to earn their salvation to their works and their recall this morning class I am and that is the earthly class is a heavenly class and so only the hundred 44,000 are not take communion if you knew this or not. Now what you do is you can go to where Jesus says if you don't take this community can have a part of me for that exact first show it to her and say you submit the hundred 44,000 did some research is Jesus only died for the hundred 44,000 right side mediates only for them, desire, peace and security worldwide.
Six. Page 10. Likewise, a greater Moses. Jesus Christ is not the mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind using media between his heavenly father Jehovah God nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to hundred 44,000 members so they don't have mediator. She does not. She's not 144,000 and hundred 44,003 male, virgin Jews Revelation 14 and read up on this and says in verse four, Revelation 14 every religion. 14 these are the ones you have not been defiled with women for they have kept themselves chased the campy woman that God is not lesbianism on sexuality is what you can do is say right there. I did some research on Revelation 14. There is so even asked question I was going to have to guess I'll tell you you're very very careful because as long as she's brainwashed as long as she think she's teaching you shall continue as soon as you showed her difficulties. You can answer. Generally they just quit. Okay, we are opposite not interested in. That's it.
One of things I would suggest you entertain the idea of doing is asking her to go to church. He will hurt the Kingdom Hall don't go to debate. Just go to learn and observe because you need to understand what you're up against. You're up against a brainwashing cult to see them in action okay and a lot more sympathy and also earn you a little bit of right to speak to quickly convert to show so I written well over 100 articles on Job's witness theologies on car you go through. There are ways to destroy her arguments and absolutely destroy the okay to things you want to do generally stay with the Trinity, the deity of Christ because they're so trained on that I like to do is go with how your sins forgiven and what you softened up and that then you can introduce the idea of you trusting in Christ, he forgives me all all my sins. Why should I trust what you have in your slowly working towards you.
Christ is at that point. Okay, I give you a lot I give it fast and I'm sorry but the show no I will go to your website.
I didn't know quite how to you know I hope I am getting a clockwork because I think Jehovah's Witness because her husband over your at your okay you know what I let it time. I want you to call back and we can talk.
I can coach you and stuff like that it would work together okay so I will write sorry but Heather from North Carolina and Jones.
Sorry about that. We got a go may the Lord bless you by his grace back on there tomorrow will document have a pretty benevolent another program powered by the Truth Network