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October 1, 2022 12:30 pm
Welcome fellow adventurers! This week's show is part 4 of a series of shows, that go into detail on the 6 different stages a man is meant to go through, from the womb to the tomb. The stage discussed this week is the "Lover" stage. The clips are from "Blue Bloods," "The Fight Within," "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," and "I Need A Lover," by John Cougar Mellencamp. The journey continues, so grab your gear and be blessed, right here on the Masculine Journey Radio Show.
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You don't need he needed even get a microphone at this point somebody somebody so I somebody I can family member may be air you long-lost sister, friend or something. Something that we are continuing our topic of the masculine journey, not the name of the show, but what it's named after his heart is from the book for father by God and John talks about this masculine journey that were on going from boyhood to death.
Basically, from birth to death and all the different stages in between. Andy you want to recap some of the stages we been through and in his talk a bit about the stage were talking about today. The one today. The moron stage tomorrow and say quite a long time, depending on person rather I do I know was feel that smoking love that's all I want to know if you had any want you good.
So we start off with boyhood zero 12 discount where your learning that you are the apple of your father's that you have what it takes. Cowboy Ranger and mid-twenties you really experiencing adventure nature hard work and life is hard and Moyer. We went over that last week 16 to 30 and beyond know that you've made as a warrior in God's image. 11. The battles are to be fought, and that there bigger than you and the chapter called God for that which is positive for your Head so I was talking to somebody about this actually last night to the first two stages are so incredibly fundamental and lenient. I know we talked about that, but if you don't get what you need out of those first two stages. Every other stage will be complicated and it won't go well if you get wounded in those first 82 stages, which pretty much everybody does it.
If our more underdeveloped or underdeveloped because when you say you know it's never fostered is never ground that type of thing that you can have a hard time with the rest of the stages is that boyhood stage. You're supposed to be delighted in the apple. The father's eye that you have. It's not based on performance. It's not based on you know any of those types of things it's just because you are who you are right in and you got your dad delights and you and that's what you're supposed to get from that and a lot of people down you know no one does to a perfect degree. Right now I God, but in the next stage in and you need to learn you have what it takes in those adventures and so if you fail during that time, or you don't really you realize you don't have what it takes in area and there's no one to help coach you through that how you be prepared for the warrior I got a report. For the next day to the next stage and so it's all important because they build on that and and so as we talked about before that the value of doing this and if anyone is like the spreadsheet we consented to just reach out any others that masculine journey.org and make that clear it be like Robby not not to email any of us that we don't have that one yet it is Robby handy in the night that we consented to you is going back there with God and letting him father you in those areas so you can be a better warrior a better lover, better can better stage anything and so ending. Sorry about the delay.
They just want to pick a backup for sure. So were in the lever staged today that age late teens. The rest of your life knowing we know that we don't.
There's not an expiration date on when you can stop loving obviously discovers beauty discovers poetic is more than analytical begins know God is a lever learns to give an offer versus see what he can get and I think a lot of us relate to that and how it's wounded, you get the woman too soon before your fully prepared takes question the woman fails with a woman wrote remains undeveloped when a man stated you may remain undeveloped when you stay in the my in a world of analytical logical and in yeah I think it was an actually wild at heart.
John wrote this part that he really does a good job of describing a kiss right. We when use when you use the logical, analytical, what a kiss is its two mandibles pressing together Bob abolished potential fluid exchange and handed@@@@@@@right that doesn't describe a kiss you and you really kiss somebody that you love it, and there's no words for right that's the difference between the analytical and the deeper thinking underneath that that's that's not reason oriented heart oriented and so to go back to something he said there at the beginning is when we talk about the lever stage and in a lot of the clips are going to deal around man and woman relationship, but there's so much more to this and will talk about it more in the after hours.
It's where you discover beauty rediscover God as a lever right the lover of your heart. That type of thing and so going from there, but we do have a clip coming up and then you have the first clip and so if you tell us a little bit about the first clip organically yet from the show bluebloods and it is interchange between Jamie and Eddie who were married the not been made too long. Jamie is Drew Blake was his name is Tom Selleck son Tom Selleck's in the show and they were married in and he's really trying to be good husband and he is thrown all barrels that night to while his wife basically and she comes home and clinically withheld by the live site is going on right now and essential part I just as funny. I like affirmation on the stone surface which was your language so I tried to be to start English case. Sorry, sorry, husbandů His wife is trying to think what is, where is it so many times I have been in Jamie shoes at the trying to do the analytical lover thing and if I do XYZ. It should come out this away and it not only in a little you set this up not only in in relationships with women.
My wife, but also with God. Because if I pray enough reading of Scripture. If I go to church the right amount of times then my relationship should be okay. Any leads you so hollow and so did the struggle has been in in those arenas that to analyze a relationship and and think it should come out a certain way and it hasn't worked so far. So you can figure out God's love language. Yes it is. It is job description as you say you got is a much anyone not getting thoughts on that clip that you'd like to share I thought was pretty cool that he's at least trying for so many people that this would say in you know I'm not going over it in this. It appears he is trying with a pure heart as well. It's not necessarily what can I get out of it as much as how can I love well and I think that's pretty key even when you don't do it right. If that's your intention. Your least going with the right direction in a disk at a walk with God through try to find a better way of I will pay it play a clip from a song that I used to like it's from John Mellencamp at the time as John cougar song.
I need a lover and in the lyrics to go. I need a lever that won't drive me crazy and that was kind of funny until actually read the lyrics play a short little snippet from it and I'll read you what it says that it's it's a really really bad solid in on a lot of ways it's a good rhythm but anyway we will play it and come back and talk about pickups and so he sings about I need a lover that will drive me crazy. Some girl to thrill me and then go away while I need a lever that won't drive me crazy. Some girl that knows the meaning of an hey, it's a highway. He hit the highway. This is all consumer roominess is a I'm in this relationship for what I can get 110% in this and this is all I'm about.
I don't really care about your needs and care about anything for you. It's just about me and that's where a lot of times men maybe women as well. You can find themselves after they've been wounded in those other stages right when you when you've had some deep deep hurt at some point you just kinda shut down part, those parts of you that would would welcome that are accepted in on you go from being someone that we heard in the first clip that to somebody here in the second someone that destroys a consumer enters the season a couple seasons my life that I would say I fell into that you know and both the one coming out of the season of you know he is on the mystery of her before but was molested as a kid and in the enemy tell me you never be a real man while you and I was going to do anything to try to make me feel like a real median in nine and left a lot of carnage along the way you now and in and again after some betrayal in my life. You know you just kinda shut down the party your heart and when you shut it down and you don't open yourself up to what you end up in some really bad places, hurting people, known and not a great song title like? Register for the Boot Camp tuneup November 17-20 masculine journey.org. One of my favorite things about boot camp.
The favorite thing about campus every time I go as God knows, generally speaking, it's nothing we expect really counter with God out of it when I needed. I knew what I will masculine journey.org for me describing boot camp when I heard the stories from the stage and the other men had and then during my prayer time. I'm getting a download from God, where my life is and how I have seen I have his story is communicate with us yesterday. Masculine journey.org and with his bump was his usual right and he did not have the show goes so what that was a righteous Brothers and likable my call yesterday and she's told that there were just just the words in you.
A man will do anything for the level woman spend every dime on her. She says out sleep out of the rain. Yeah, that's good and a lot of times that's we were just talking about taking your question.
The woman next. It's when you bring a certain amount of strength you don't have to be in Atlanta around with those kind of ideas that woman say something attractive in you and what you bring from you are that you know that's not necessarily.
It sounds I this song sounds like so romantic that I have but it's really like yours. It's not complete the complete story, and that was a lot better than what I ended.
Actually, most women think it's a great little and I used asked man or women when they sell. I really love that song you really want to God with that wimpy health and I caught something and that this will not forgot about.
He says he's doing it for himself.
So it's a selfish thing that these roll it out thinking that if Jesus has a set on the rain and that sounds wimpy, but in the song of Solomon), the famous setting where he is open to me.
My right now my love because my head is filled with the drops of the night right it's that's in there and then that's Jesus and Archimedes out there but he's pursuing her because he knows what's best for Fridays are from his strength.
So there is a big difference in you and when we're talking about taking your question. In other words in that clip with Jamie.
The question I have in Jamie's sort of an insecure guy. If you watch the series much I have is a good man a really good man, but I'm not so sure he knows he has what it takes and so when you listen to what he was talking to his wife is like I don't want to be the guy.
All that's it. That's still about me right I don't want to be that husband I want you know and and so you can't help but wonder is he going after Vlad languages in an effort to beat bring her his strength or is he doing it is so that he doesn't have to be that guy and and and you know sometimes we don't realize ourselves what our motors might be in that you know so we hear those words like I don't want to be that guy wall. Yeah so that's an semi-quick pretty good so this my clips from a big fat Greek wedding. And here we have in at an how it was sayer on the chair for 20 some you. This could be right.
Anyway, she's Greek. She is she's the one very insecure. But the thing about it and that I would really like you know I I can't listen to it.
Enough is the lover is a learner and the idea in Hebrew of lover and learner and heart, or all three very much connected in the first letter that is happens to have at L sound allotment and so when you think about that.
He is interested in finding out about her and he brings his strength to her when she gets really insecure. Solicit how he draws her out when she's trying to hide and then come for well you know everything about me than I am a pretty strong vegetarian teacher Lincoln Park know anything about you. Your great Christmas with her family so first workout which the work in different species. Yes, we come from different backgrounds and piercing news about my life to this point is boring that I met you are interesting and beautiful in finding weird family so you know to me there's there is tremendous desire to learn that is so fun in the relationship with God and in the relationship with your mother or your daughter or your granddaughter Mike. How fun is it to have your four-year-old granddaughter and begin to examine you know Shirley Temple with her like you know whatever it is that that she's into you know how fun is that you're going after their heart and into their story and and you know it's really, really need that that that that is stuff that connects to your heart and you can feel it and act and that connects to their heart because people are interested in you right that it brings amount of the things you from the clip level in the obviously when he speaks because you're beautiful and all that but it's more for me the EC of a weird family who doesn't write the affirmation of everybody is weird family and did you was a Hebrew word limb limb Linda Lamott Islamic Lyman okay now I am eating so we break down the song while mental amount Lyman getting into the needle wasn't quite sure, it sounds like that I think Jim could sing it no close on the Greek of lamp. David Ike I think we will take a cut right to the right to refer this is a different aspect that's going to get up and now so this is from fighting with and it's a young MMA fighter.
That's trying to overcome his trouble passing and dig into his newly found faith and when we come into this scene he said in private giving a store with an older gentleman is after the second time the movie visited and Jim is eating gummy bears and really what what this clip speaks to me as it is about. We can't truly be lovers until we know God's love and in knowing how to get to that and so will let him explain in them will come back and talk little bit about like the little green God love someone like his creation is child loves you like a newborn date have no idea that you know what God is done what he wants. Leave about what you can or can't do is love about your faith in him who is in your life change you will see find God.
Once you find God. Everything changed because it has to wanted want to do things his way and a lot of you know the reason.
Just say yeah I was interested in what he say he said all of these jellies taste the same. Okay so you slow down a little bit sometimes gets what he says but he's got a point there mean you know one more talk about God's God's love her or the brand of God's love. You know it's the world likes to make us think that we can just go to Christ our watch Hallmark movie and that's what love is or going through the Ranger stage into the warrior stage.
And you know, I know when I was in the stage is still currently in some of them you know I would just basically you know didn't love the woman I was going more of my flesh desires versus you know, really, back in and looking at it from love that God shows us, and in until we truly do that we can't really love love ourselves or anybody else for me. I didn't really start you know I will always love my life I will always love my wife but I didn't really know the true meaning of unconditional love and tell I got myself right with God and could feel the love that he was given me and I started to you not necessarily go out and say is my God love you or I love you because God tells me to start to show your everyday actions and and how you actually love the people around you consult that's what we are called to give rise love people around us and sharing God's love with people around the state laws and save our life. You know just recently on the way to the radio show stalking my mom and eat that as we were talking she was like you know were really proud he is like will thankfully are you really proud me. She's like because you became a good person and and I was shocked at first and Orsino had come back to you know praying about and get get right with God before I said what I said and Absalom, as I will always make a person you know that the cops got little weird. After that we got off the phone and start really praying about it and thinking it.
It was like a one-two punch punch the guy straight in the face, really with it is, is the fact was, I have always been a good person, but until I really acquired understood what God's love is in the lover stage, nobody else knew that and now it started to show them you know, grateful that my parents are proud me out. It's always been there but finally finally found love the got chosen got out there. Finally, a safe place were to come out yet for sure. I mean, you know, grown-up all through my life. You know me, it was just have been married three times and really messed that up and it was more of not going after it. From a godly perspective from Christmas flesh think you, David is so much more on this topic. We stuck together.
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