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Arafat's radio broadcast. My name is Steve Greg and were live for hour each week afternoon taking your calls. If you have questions about the Bible or about the Christian faith.

Feel free to give me a call we'll talk about those together here in this hour of the number to call is 844-484-5730 7F 844-484-5737 our first color today is Ronald calling from Detroit, Michigan.

Ronald welcome to the narrow path. Thanks for your bronchitis. I question is something I make sure to write it. The person who did the seed would be, I accuse you none for one question. One thing that started you see you don't celebrate holidays and splaying that in the thing up, up, so will be a source Apollo are you wanted to. It was an all Democrat believe in abortion not outgunned well.

Well anyone who votes for Democrats must believe in abortion because that's on the Democratic platform. They believe in abortions right up until the moment of birth.

So if a person says they don't believe in that but they vote for Democrats and we have to ask.

Well, do we believe what you say or what you do in a lobby when a person with the new code say anything right exactly so somebody votes some votes for Democrats their voting for the stated goals of Democrats or the goat's Democrats have told us what they're going to do to gain power and among other things, to make more abortions available right up until the point of birth and some some of the leading Democrats. New York City, for example, have celebrated the fact that they've passed a law that will allow an aborted baby that survives accidentally to be put to death if the mother and so they want to limit kind of thing. The Republican well they won't think you know we then wait for the field voting Republican old good things. How many good things the Democrats have to do to make up for killing million babies a year.

I don't know about what he thinks when the good things that you would vote Democratic for none of any thing to have the right to like anybody else. Not this is if you say well you know I'm a Democrat and I don't believe in abortion. I know the Democratic Party is is very much abortions that whole thing.

That's that's the only reason they have opposed this recent Supreme Court nominee is because they are afraid she'll end abortion, then their whole emotion in this whole thing was over the abortion issue they want abortion now you might say well I don't believe in abortion on the Democrat I would say this is Donald Trump, believed in or did something that was abhorrent to Christians, but they surrendered vote for him anyway because the other candidates could do things more important and we we don't want that to happen I could I could maybe see them arguing that way but but what is it about the Democratic Party let Satan take the abortion issue off the table. What is it about the Democrat party that makes them someone you'd want to vote for number one thing I can think of right now not okay but he's not running. I we've got a whole new batch Democrats is turned far less in the past four years they support black lives matter, which is against the traditional family.

If you read the plaque placement website. They want to dismantle the traditional family.

The biblical family and others and they are for the transgender community more, they they they want to defund the police which would be the worst things that could happen to black families in the in the inner-city. Now will allow Internet porn they will gladly do they one man only. That's a very good question and that's a very good question and so I suggest that you look at the black lives matter website and see that they state what their objectives are. They want to dismantle the police defund them, which is the same thing they want to destroy the traditional family and and they are Marxist-Leninist or communist. Now that's what they say about themselves when people tell you things like that about themselves. You should believe what they say because they are not same things that will endear them to most Americans of the same things that are damaging to their own reputation, but they don't really say them because that's what they really want to stand for now the Democratic Party officially supports black lives matter and so you know II just don't know there's anything in the Democratic Party that they specifically stand for the Christian would approve of. So anyway okay. We talked about that.

What was the other. There was another thing you thought I said you were wondering about was the first time, you'll holiday was holiday yeah yeah I know I just am not the kind of person who cares what holidays I don't see any particular value. I mean for some people. Or maybe I don't condemn holidays. I just am not the kind of person sees any use for them there. To me every day is a like every day is a day that's totally devoted to God, and you can't increase total devotion on some days over the total devotion of all other days it's just if you want to celebrate holidays. I'm not against.

I just think about will celebrate. He rose from the dead. That's actually what Easter celebrates Thanksgiving Thanksgiving Thanksgiving is said to give thanks to God for you know his mercies to the pilgrims and so forth who were here and frankly I I believe in Thanksgiving. I just believe that we should give thanks to God every single day. So I mean it's fine with me if some people wanted a special day to do so. I'm not against it and that's fine but I'm not what I'm saying is that if there's anything godly to celebrate on a given day. It seems to me like that can be celebrated everyday and should be and if it isn't then somebody's just compartmentalizing their Christian life of saying okay on certain days. I'll do what Christians ought always do, because those are set apart to do those things.

The rest of days. I guess I won't do it relates not as much.

Anyway, I hope that clarifies my position. I need to takes more calls.

I'm glad you called.

And thanks for joining us.

Eddie from Petaluma, California.

Welcome to the narrow path. Thanks for calling was used more Christian walk should choose notice Christians and the church. While I don't know what you try to tell them about the message of world to hear from all twisted to accommodate yeah I understand that icing I see that to I just wanted can you give me examples of the kind of thing you're actually discussing when it comes to all people Christians are more vile systems are doctrinal and old.

It almost just the person just completely memorized that person because of the system. All the critics I do it because I know that my will allow me to judge brother way. I will talk you next week. Moreover, the following: doing accusing somebody else to. I don't I don't see how people cannot live as you know, in the Bible and because yeah I know well, it's a scam abroad problem you're raising. I was hoping for something a little more specific that I guess what you're saying is that people sometimes demonize credit. Christian people sometimes demonize other Christian people who have different doctrines and they have and so forth. And that certainly has been known to be the case throughout Protestant history Catholic history to and that is about things. I guess what I should just say is that I believe the problem is that there are many people in churches who are not converted, but they believe they are.

They fully believe that they are converted, but there's not. But their lives to show it and your converted means changed lot scripts. I will, I believe you all the things Christianity teaches so you can send not converted well I don't know.

I think lots of people believe things are Christian teachers, but there they are nonetheless not showing any evidence of being born again and having the spirit of Christ in them so I biblical standards that do not converted, and so I think one of the problems is the churches in many cases I don't like the heat load on the churches all the time but this is just an observation that many have made it it's true. Many of the church is not preaching the gospel of personal conversion transformation. There preaching on self-help kind of message and that's preventing many people from coming to Christ on his terms. Most people in churches probably feel that they have come to Christ and they may have come to Christ. Even on the terms.

The preacher recommends, but the preacher may not have ever really represented what coming to Christ on his terms may, for example, Helmick. How many pastors tell their congregations that Jesus said if anyone will come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me and others are radical things to do which I don't think most people go to church have have really done they don't give evidence of having an end and if they are not sure if they've heard that they're supposed or or and Jesus said you know whoever comes after me does not hate his father, mother, wife, children, his own life also cannot be my disciple. Whoever does not forsake all that he has cannot be my disciple. These are the words of Jesus and certainly the early Christians took them entirely seriously. I think modern Christian sometimes fail to do so, and therefore they fail to really get converted because they don't hear the gospel as it was preached in the Bible.

They don't hear what conversion requires say it's a greasy gray sky the message that many of you have received and some have even heard anything about grace. Grace is important that to mean they just hear about. I do know what they hear about that here, but one of the preachers hobbyhorse is I think this results in a lot of people thinking there Christians belong to the church. The church accepts them as as belonging to, but but they haven't really come to Christ on the biblical terms, but they might never discover that until they stand before Christ on the judgment day because the church may never confront them about that. It's sometimes I frankly think that some of the pastors have not come to Christ. Yet on those terms. And Jesus said, many will say to me that they Lord Lord we prophesied in your name cast out demons in your name and we did my worsening house. I never knew you.

So it's obvious that there are plenty of people even in public ministry. Even with impressive public mystery, whom Jesus does not know, and they're not saved, but they certainly think they are. So it would do well refer pastors, and frankly, for those who sat under pastors choose see what Jesus said, frankly, I think people ought to read what Jesus said, since he's the one that Christianity is about is the one who defines what it means to be one of his and people don't pay attention to that. Then they got don't blame them themselves if they don't if you don't measure up when they stand before Christ. On the day of judgment and I think what you're saying simply illustrates that that's true of a great number people. I appreciate your call for extra joining us, Rod from Riverside, California. Welcome to the neuropathic for calling peoples and nations. They became one of the best none of them was the Midianites and remember Moses wife Keturah was a Midianite. Her father was a priest of Midian that the Midianites figure more prominently than any of these others are six sons born to Abram by Keturah and each of them probably gave rise to some at least tribe if not nation. We know that one of the sons were Sheila and one of Job's friends was a shoe height which probably means descendent from Sheila and so but we don't.

Knowing that the shoe height really mean except that Joe had a friend who is that that tribe. I think the Midianites would be the only ones. The Bible really says very much about after after the mention of the birth of Midian and across the Midianites were enemies of Israel.

It was the Midianites that Gideon drove out Israel. They have been invading and oppressing his cadres of Gideon to drive them out so the Midianites one of those tribes and nations. The other five are not are not very well known to us to know why the commonly pleaded crazy as to the well-being of the Bible that came about right. What we don't know when it was written that the story of Job is quite old.

It may have been written by Job. If so, then it is the earliest written book in the Bible because all the other early books of Genesis through Deuteronomy the Pentateuch were written by Moses who lived later than Job. Even though the story Genesis goes back to the creation. It's not written at the time the creations written by Moses and so Job lived before Moses and if he wrote the book of Job, we don't really know because the book is an honor anonymously written then then it's older than the books of Moses wrote on the other hand, are many who feel that even if the story of Job is older than the time of Moses that does mean the book in its present form is written at that time some feelings written much later something is written by Solomon. That's one of the theories out there among scholars that we don't really know who the author of Job was, but the story of Job definitely predates the time of Moses and since the other earliest books of the Bible written by Moses story of Job took place before the time that Moses wrote any books before time is born so that's why sometimes had the oldest book. If if Job wrote it, and we don't know if that's the case then it was certainly written before any of the books of Moses. I know there's a list as being in the Senate because was that one of the things you'll possibly know that would not be the same one Job, Job lived during the time in all likelihood that Israel was in Egypt in bondage. The reason I say that is because like I said one of his friends was a shoe height.

Another was a descendent of Esau and Eliphaz the team and night Eliphaz the team and I was in the book.

Job was a team and I got teaming was a son of Esau and so now Esau was contemporary with Jacob and in Jacob's lifetime. Israel went down into Egypt and they became slaves. There so Esau was content with Jacob Seaman would be contemporary with Jacob's 12 sons and team, and nights would be of course after team and sometimes a generation or two or three so it would be during the time that Israel was and is in Egypt as slaves that the book of Job took place stuff Job was part of the tribe of this sharp he would've necessarily been in Egypt but instead is described as the mightiest man of the East at the east would be east of Israel and probably in Edom. I think the best guess is that Job was in Edomite okay thank you very much.

You have a good day okay Rod, should text or call Mark from Clifton Park, New York Mark, welcome to the narrow path. Thanks for calling burning why you think God in the burning and we see the burning bush in the Bible to think that you very one time. The time that God chose to reveal himself. Well, God revealed himself and other ways to later times through the pillar of cloud and the pillar of fire and so forth, and also in human form. When he wrestled with Jacob and so forth. But I think the burning bush may have symbolic value. Remember the bush was on fire, which would normally burn a bookshop and destroy, but it didn't burn up. It was surviving and not even being consumed in the fire. This I'm thinking probably was symbolic of the nation of Israel itself, which was in Egypt and was yet not destroyed. You know later on in Deuteronomy. The captivity in Egypt was described as God. Having had Israel in the iron furnace.

Even Jeremiah also refers to the Egyptian captivity as being in the iron furnace I would like the idea being where they would normally burn you throw wood into the furnace, it usually burns up and hears a bush normally burn up and it's it's a flame but it's not it's not been consumed which could simply mean that God was preserving Israel through the fiery furnace of afflictions that are going through in Egypt. Normally, a nation might be thought to be extinguished or destroyed through such oppression and abuse.

But but they were they survived through the hand of God. It may be that the burning bush not being consumed had that relevance looking for truth and meaning of the act itself, I appreciate it. Thank you. I think if you call John from Garden Grove, California.

Welcome to the narrow path I'm doing good. Remember I cried many times the family. I knew remember that you want me to keep the seventh day Sabbath and I got so okay remember I called the new covenant, and tribe of Judah.

I my grandpa you mentioned there are two covenants which quits covenant to be grafted into no you cannot lives at one time to time after time here and you give me the whole story. The Bible let me tell you this, there are two covenants.

You said so there's an old, new, all right now.

In Hebrews 813, it says where there's a new covenant, the old covenant is obsolete. All right that's it says Hebrews 813 says where there's a new covenant, the old covenant is obsolete not to covenants. There's only one and the one that we have now is the new not the old one.

Now the old one was struck at Mount Sinai when God gave the 10 Commandments, and that any gave 613 laws altogether and that covenant that was a company made with the children of Israel. The promise was that he may come a great nation that they be greater than all the nations, and that he did.*Holy nation, and of course they broke that covenant and because they broke it. Jeremiah was told by God to God to make a new covenant with the house of Israel, because they broke the first one that Jesus came he made the new covenant up in the upper room. He at the Last Supper. He said this Is of the new covenant in my blood. So now we have a new covenant and the writer of Hebrews tells us that makes the old one obsolete. And what was the old building was the one that was made. Mount Sinai and so the sciatic law is no longer binding. It is in fact obsolete. The Bible says. That means we don't have to offer animal sacrifice, that is a major part of that law to keep the holy days. It does, we don't keep the dietary laws are major parts that covenant, but they're not part of the new covenant, the new covenant doesn't have any of that. And we know that because Jesus who is the maker of the new covenant never mentioned the need for us to do and it is sweet what he did say says he made a new commandment and and that new commandment is that we love one another. So that's a different one than the ultimate you. You want me to embrace the old covenant.

So I'll keep the Sabbath. I'm not going to embrace the old covenant is obsolete under to follow Jesus and he made the new covenant so when you call a lot and you try to talk me into the same thing and I don't know why. Maybe I just have to pray that you come to the knowledge of truth appreciate your call. Though and we take a break with another half-hour coming up or not done more more calls will be taken in the next half hour and that we continue to broadcast this by just will let you know that the narrow path is a listener supported ministry.

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If you want to know more about why I don't follow the scent administered a religion or not.

Why, I don't believe we keep the Sabbath day you can go to my website and look up the lectures I have on that subject delivers I give that I don't mind answering them. I just don't like answering several times a week or several times a month. There are other subjects that people want to call about. But some feel free to call if you disagree with me on something. The number is 844-484-5737 and by the way, we have quite a few of our lines (unless not usually the case of this a good time to call 844-484-5737. Chris from Concorde New Hampshire is an ex-con welcome to the narrow path. Chris, thanks for calling. Thanks. Thank you think it you're saying you know what show signs of being a Christian think it's really glaring to me is that I noticed that a lot of people don't love their enemies. You know a lot about and I think I'm not saying I'm not judge anybody but I'm just saying that I've been thinking a lot love my United States and what your thoughts are on that leg. Are there any circumstances you think that it's okay for someone to hate, no I don't I don't believe we should hate our enemies by hate and my love love in the Bible of course is not strictly speaking and emotion, not even primarily in emotion. There may be emotion involved in it doesn't have to be. Love is something you do. That's why Jesus apparently that's why Jesus paraphrased the great commandment which he said is to love your neighbor as you love yourself. He paraphrased it as what you want others to do to you do that to them. So it's what you do toward somebody not how you feel toward them. That makes life so rather yeah and so that's actually in first John right, but the truth is hatred is also a word that we have to understand correctly.

Hatred is hatred that is forbidden is when we fail to love. That is when we when we don't want to do something good for somebody when we don't want to bless those who curse us and we want to curse them back when love is really wanting the best for your for the. The other person whether there an enemy are not out Yankee if if a person is in my neighborhood breaking into houses and raping women into and stealing things and so forth. Perhaps the best thing I could wish that was to be put in jail now.

They might say what I want to go. Jessica, you don't love me well I think discipline is necessary.

I think whoever whoever raise that person should discipline them so they would be doing that member whoever withholds discipline for the child hates their child is a loving thing to discipline someone who is a menace to others because after all the others are people you're supposed to love to and so there are times when we have to approve. We may not hate the person we wish the best for them, but we have to prove people suffering, punishment for crimes they've done because the crimes have victimized other people, and if no punishment can continue to pray for those who been falsely accused. People are never murdered anybody but they got blamed for it anyway course in others. We need to pray for justice pray for the gods will be done on earth as it is in heaven, I will answer my question. Have a nice day.

Okay thank you Chris, good to talk to your call.

I want to mention this because I don't mention it every day, but I recently wrote a couple of books book 1 book 2 on one subject that is on the kingdom of God, of the title of both books is Empire of the risen son, SON, and you can find it at Amazon. The first book I just received information yesterday that the second book is going to the press now and that doesn't mean it will be shipped. If you order on Amazon or some like that right away, but I think it'll be out. I had the impression will be on 45 days, which is still before Christmas so hopefully both books in this series will be able to be in your hands or in the hands of people you may want to give them to before Christmas time.

I mentioned I don't celebrate holidays and much don't care much about them but that doesn't mean you can't if you want to.

And so if you if your person gives gifts on Christmas and maybe I be a good gift to give people you just go to Amazon look up the my name really got my name Steve Greg at Amazon and in my very special turnup, including the newest one that is out, and pretty soon very shortly.

I think you'll be able to preorder the second book of you're interested. Those are both books 1 and two of a single series on the kingdom of God. The most important subject in the Bible. If we would judge by what Jesus placed first. Okay, let's talk to Angela from Springfield that I could be Springfield, Oregon. I'm not sure there's other Springfield high Angela Buckham. Thank you. Welcome. I have a question regarding Robert Wade.

Now I know somebody close to me is against abortion but said that a woman should have the right to choose and they shouldn't be a government law against it and I said to this person. Well, we have no I can't go my neighbor is exactly seem like person I don't. I'm very concerned close to me and I wondered if anything else I could say because this person is actually going to the reasoning going to save a person's name is night and only in the reinvented funeral considering not voting at all upset with the Democratic Party can feel out of liberalism. There a lot of craziness there and says to me well president lie to us when he he said not to worry about the virus you know in the beginning when when when he said here present from its hold told the people what he had been told okay.

Mr. Trump is not a doctor. He's not a medical expert. He is a president and as such he has to get his information from experts doxology was one of the main experts. He listened to and certainly Dr. Saatchi said is nothing to worry about two in the early stages. Trump said the same thing. Saatchi said out the part where he said well I I only did that with wine while I was trying to prevent a panic presence on the presidents ought to do anything else I can say just pray I don't know well don't don't you think we should not panic.

I think I think the media I think the media wants to write what I want to say this gentleman to speak up here. I personally think there are people who do want us to panic and I don't think the cold virus is as an occasion for panicking. Some people get it. A few of them will die if you're under 50 years old dear got it you know what is.

It went one chance in 10,000 of dying from it. If your if you like over 70. Maybe there's a 5% chance of dying, which means used 95% people get it will still live so it's not really it's not something that most of us should be panicked about now. People who are at risk should be careful, just like flu just like any other disease. Any any disease that's out there. People take the risk of getting it by by just living and if you don't get the disease you take the risk of getting killed on the freeway just by going on for everyone by getting out of bed every day, you take the risk of being killed. You could slip on the bathroom floor, crack your head on the tile and die. I mean there are risks in life. The risks of coated might be a little higher. First, will they are a little higher for some age groups. Most of us are not in those age groups but they are little higher for some age groups, then say flu but for children flu is much more deadly than for encoded is hardly any children Diet Coke with lots of them die, the flu, so are we supposed to panic every flu season because there's a chance that when some people die chance you die every day the week you could die of heart failure right to me that people want us to panic means that they have something to gain from our being irrational and there are people who have something to gain from our being irrational, I think a good leader would normally stand up, say hey, don't panic.

You know, we can handle this and as a matter fact we are the other 200,000 people died yeah well a million babies have died in a safer time to abortion. That's something we should panic about that innocent babies are being killed whereas frankly old people and I'm I'm an old person I'm in I'm in the at risk group old people are dying of coated in so you not not very high numbers, but some and most of our people who were heads have prior conditions that made them susceptible like diabetes or something else. People are going to die, and some of them are going to die a lot younger then those people who died of covert and large number so you just put things in perspective, there is not a reason in the world for us to be panicked about this and I just made a trip across country. I'm back in California just right back home today but I've been the whole month going back Easton. Some of these states are just crazy about masks and things like that. Others are not morally laid-back ones are laid-back or not in a much greater danger like like the countries in Europe where they have this huge spike in France and Germany again. They were wearing masks they were coming.

We just have to use Fekete living in this world is dangerous if you're not ready to die. That's your fault because you can get ready to die.

You can get right with God and what is right with God has not a reason in the world to be afraid to die.

In fact, Paul said to die is gain. So we should look forward to the time that God calls us home.

And if it's cold or something else of Texas who cares. I don't I've never been afraid of covert since it came out and I don't I expose myself to people all the time in terms of touch and breathing on people and things like that in in social life and you know I'm not. I might get it. I'm not afraid if I get it. I'm not afraid to get the flu. I'm not afraid I'm not afraid to get cancer, something's going to get you and so just live your life, unafraid to dine. If you can't do that then you know you need to get right with God, then you can sell me that's what you're I think the presence is hate you got nothing to fear but fear itself in the old days that that is a heroic statement and often quoted is a great statement of a president. Now what presence is don't panic somehow is held real guilty of saying that only by people who want you to panic and the people want you to panic and people want to be irrational and do something irrational like vote for them so that's that's my thought about that now. As far as the abortion thing. I think you made the right observation, your friend or relative, or whatever. So she doesn't believe in abortion but she doesn't usually outline as I say and I don't believe people should be allowed to murder my neighbor but I don't want. I mean, I don't believe in people murdering my neighbor. I don't think a law should be to forget them and and how is any different killing of an innocent baby or communist neighbor at the same same same same crime. Why should the law for good one and not the other.

Frankly, I think the situation you describe simply illustrates what anyone has been paying attention to who and who has a brain functioning in her head has noticed already and that is most people are totally irrational. Unfortunately, including most Christians, most Christians have sacrificed their responsibility to to use their brains and to be clear thinkers and to stand up for what's obviously true and if they don't do it then the world be a worse place because of it.

I appreciate your call. Okay, let's talk to Robert from Fort Worth, Texas, Robert, welcome to the narrow path. Thanks for calling? I think you are the most contextual teacher on the radio and I felt so blessed and excited when I first started hearing you here in the Dallas Fort Worth area couple years ago I sent for me. I lived on site about your background, my goodness is almost a twin similar background similar and I just really appreciate your teaching you mention rationality and irrationality to comment. Based on the last caller interesting and we know that there are the pro-lifers and then the pro-choice people and I thought about putting on the back my vehicle. Pro-choice is really cruel because that's their choice. Unfortunately, at times we just like to make it sound better as well not really pro-choice is choice means making an informed decision. For example, pro-choice people do not want girls who are considering abortion to get an ultrasound because then they can make an informed decision probably won't get an abortion because when they see the ultrasound see that that's not a tissue blob in there that's a baby and it response to stimuli and so forth. I mean, it's that you know if you want people to be pro-choice you should want them to have all the information that will help them make an informed choice but pro-choice people. I can't speak for all pro-choice people but the abortion lobby, which is opposite pro-choice. They do not want people to know that that is a baby and they don't want people to see what it is they don't want people to see record. Did you ever see that movie was unplanned.

I think it was movie about a lady that I do have a question let's just say the movie unplanned was about a true story about a woman who actually ran an abortion clinic for years and then she just happened to be in the room would abortion take Isis is watching the abortion on the ultrasound she saw when that sharp tools were inserted into the woman's womb she saw the baby recoil and try to get away from it and for that she is always thought the baby was just a mindless plot and here she sees an actual baby recognizing a sharp instrument and trying to get try to move around and want to get away from it and that just ruined her whole career as an abortionist, that she cursed him came to life is a very good movie. It's called unplanned and what was your question some time ago you were. Think about the age of the earth or or or evolution movement more like evolution, and I didn't quite understand because I think you mentioned about Neanderthal man section in Adam and Eve to me were not nobody's ignorant people and so just tell me a little. I mean you believe that there is a young earth and in in just tell me what your what your understanding is again when you hang up and listen to you okay my view is that it doesn't matter at all what the age of the earth is that's that's my cue and I don't really care if the earth is old or young. The I've seen evidence of a secular sort that would support a young earth, and I've seen some supporting older. Certainly the majority of scientists today believe in an older but that's partly because the majority of them believe in evolution and the majority people who believe in evolution do not believe in God and so I don't I'm not hung up like they are II can be open-minded to see if a person doesn't believe in God, they have to believe in evolution is no other choice that if they believe in evolution after believe in billions of years to make evolution work now. I can believe those things. As a Christian I can believe there's a God and that he used evolution. If I want to I can even believe he used evolution of repair billions of years.

If I want to because that's within my theistic worldview. Possible, but the atheist doesn't have a choice. The atheist can't be open-minded they have to say no, it has to be billions of years even if there's good evidence for younger earth, and that there has to be evolution because that's the creation narrative of atheism. That's atheism is a religion is a belief system, and that every religion has its own creation narrative and Darwinism is the creation narrative of the atheist religion and so think they don't.

They can't be open-minded if they could they would see that there's very good reasons to question evolution is good reason to believe that intelligent design is the more rational view for the origin of species, but they can't be open-minded that they're not allowed to because they give up their faith. II won't give up my faith if I accept either instant creation, young earth creation or accept old earth evolution package that will, God used. I don't believe God used. I climbed toward the young earth but it's not a Hill to die on from its if there was absolute proof of an old earth. That's fine with me.

I'm not worried about it but I have seen evidence on both sides and on target secular type of evidence and the evidence. The evidence is the same no matter what side you're on. It just how you interpret the evidence and you interpret the evidence very largely due to your own worldview. If your worldview is that there is no God, then all the evidence we crammed into an argument for an old earth because that's the only thing in an atheist can believe they're not there is no way they could leave the younger now I like that I'm at liberty. I can believe in younger shareholders still believe in God so I don't have a problem with that. I do incline for younger earth and I don't think there's evidence that God used evolution. I think that there'd be a lot more transitional forms if if the species we have today had in fact evolved very gradually from other species would be a lot of transitional forms simply don't exist in the fossil record and they don't exist in the living world either. So I think the evidence is very much against evolution and all the evidence that's supposedly for is evidence that can be interpreted without that paradigm you can in fact use a different paradigm to understand that evidence quite rationally.

But again, for me, I'm not really too concerned about whether God used evolution. The main thing is that God is the creator God is the one who made everything in a minute for purpose.

See the intelligent design movement is not a movement that necessarily supports biblical seven day six. A young earth creation. Most people in the intelligent design movement don't seem to believe in younger and not necessarily in six-day creation but they do believe that there is evidence in nature of intelligent design, and if there is intelligent design.

There must be an intelligence. The design and if intelligence designed then that intelligence had a reason for design so there's a purpose to first Neanderthal girls, Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon man are skeletal remains of humans really different, somewhat different than many modern humans, although you go around the world and look at some of the tribes, and in various continents you'll find pygmies and you'll find you want to seize and you'll find very different kinds of body shapes and sizes of human beings we don't call them Neanderthals.

The reason the anthem is called mathematics because it was remains were found in Neanderthal Germany.

It's a location and at will at first ill and these were first discovered back in the 1800s.

It was assumed that or early 1900s, I forget which was they thought this was maybe a transition between humans and nonhuman ancestors.

But modern discovery science has pretty much relegated Neanderthals to the realm of almost, that is, people, humans who you will have some characteristics different than most modern himself, but that you can find that among living groups of humans to differences.

The main thing is that Cro-Magnon man enter bread with the man. And that means they were the same species a man cannot interbreed with the nape. Thank God and you have been same species to interbreed and there is evidence in caves that Neanderthal man and Cro-Magnon man had children that they they were the same species and is very human beings because Cro-Magnon walkers bolt upright had a brain capacity cranial capacity larger than modern man by a few centimeters.

Whatever is cubic centimeters and you know it was was a human being. Frankly, many evolutionists have said well we came to my mom Neanderthal man. If you give him a shave and a bath and put them in a certain time walking down the street. New York, no notice, just a human being.

Sure, there have been people isolated groups of human beings that have had characteristics different than others, but the fact that they interbred with Cro-Magnon and Cro-Magnon's human means that they too were human so I don't I don't believe that you know of chrome and that Neanderthal man was some knuckle dragging, half human animal brain creature that's that was what was once believed when they first found it, but that doesn't represent the current belief of as far as I can tell any of the modern scientists okay Tim from New Haven, Connecticut. Welcome to the neuropathic for calling. Good thanks. Right.

So what I want I read the Bible daily and I pray daily. I'm not in touch with any other Christians really don't know any I just recently got into the face. So what I want to know because I'm not socializing with any other Christians right now with the Lord Romney trying to get connected. Yeah, you do need to check out how far is New Haven from New London very far right okay the reason I ask is I know the church in New London, Calvary Chapel. The pastor there is a man I led to the Lord on his back in 1975 and I think is a great pastor. It's the Calvary Chapel in New London, Connecticut.


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